kirkybob Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 I am trying to locate about 8 blanks for a Master loto padlock. written on key is " safety series 14F023 401". The profile is the same as the HD masyter M12, but the key is longer about thge size of a 1a. Anyone know where i could buy some of these ? Tia Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 Your not supposed to be able to cut them, most LOTO padlocks only come with 1 key to stop the lock being removed by anyone other than the key holder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkybob Posted February 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, grahamparker said: Your not supposed to be able to cut them, most LOTO padlocks only come with 1 key to stop the lock being removed by anyone other than the key holder. I thought that was the case. In this instance the lock is on a machine and the company wants to give a key to each shift. They originaly had 10 but have lost them over the years. They are a large electrical contractors so I assume ythey know what they are doing, maybe the answer is a new padlock . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 There are some that are available keyed alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaloti Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 Tell them to behave themselves and sell them some Lockout hasps. Each shift can then use there own padlocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkD Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 I presume the issue is that if the previous shift forget to remove their padlock then the next shift can't work. The lockout hasps that I've seen require all padlocks to be removed before releasing which wouldn't help would it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 They are supposed to be for safety we supply them to the local oil refinerys (L.O.R and Phillips 66), if someone removed a lock they should not have and a valve was then opened it could result in an explosion that would be catastrophic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaloti Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 In a previous life I attended a 4day course run by a Royal Navy investigator who helped to piece together the causes of the Piper Alpha Disaster. Lockouts (or lack of them), Registers and shoddy hand overs between shift changes had an absolutely massive contribution to the disaster. I've also witnessed a few nasty things happen in engine plants and factories when Lockouts were mis-used by someone who thought they knew better. It sounds like your customer has found a short cut. It will eventually bite someone on the bollocks. Of course management will then say they had no idea this was going on. kobblers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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