Mike at Vauxhall Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Been doing a lot of these keys for the train company that is also my landlord. barrier keys. On the left is a blank, on the right shows how much I have to cut away. The last order was for 100, I ordered a new blade (it's just a cyclone, but suits my needs). About 20 keys in I noticed three of the teeth had broken off. Should I change to "softer " brass blanks to stop this happening again, or was I just going to fast. I don't think I was, there was no rush with the order, and I was doing them in batches of 7/10 over 4 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Should not be breaking teeth on those at all no matter how quick you go. Return the cutter to your supplier and get them to inspect it. I have noticed that a few Silca cutters on my old Record plus have lost teeth but usually after cutting a few thousand keys first, it does seem to be something i had noted and cannot remember many cylinder machine cutters loosing teeth over the last 35 years so it may be the way they are produced with more impurities in the metal. Mike at Vauxhall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYKeys Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Return the cutter to your supplier and get them to inspect it. Those of us who are not as chummy with our supplier as you say you are with yours might find this difficult - I know I've tried it with SKS and they weren't interested. kobblers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Those of us who are not as chummy with our supplier as you say you are with yours might find this difficult - I know I've tried it with SKS and they weren't interested. Sorry but if you have a good relationship or not you still have the right to complain, especially if it is a new cutter. Don't just take the first no as the final answer, pursue it ask for it to be returned to the manufacturer at the very least for them to inspect and test. We have found certain defects and manufacturing issues with key blanks/cylinders and padlocks and always report the issue back to either supplier and/or manufacturer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Friend Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 hell I have never buggered a cutter on a cylinder key - side wards yep and tough mortice blank yep but cylinder keys never - must be a badly made blade grahamparker and kobblers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Muppet Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Maybe grind the blank first on shoe machine or grinder? That should save the cutter a lot of work grahamparker and kobblers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Maybe grind the blank first on shoe machine or grinder? That should save the cutter a lot of work Do What?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safelycrackers Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Maybe grind the blank first on shoe machine or grinder? That should save the cutter a lot of work Would need asbestos fingers or a jig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Muppet Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Or a pair of nippers like I use, the type used on stiletto heels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broms Cobb Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 Maybe grind the blank first on shoe machine or grinder? That should save the cutter a lot of work you shouldn't need to do this, also you might even slip and worse still cut yourself! get a tungsten carbide cutter which should make all your key-cutting easier and although costs a lot more be well worth it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave the locksmith Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 Wouldn't the ART1 blank give you the head clearance you need ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 I agree with Count Muppet and would grind most of it back on my shoe finisher before cutting will save a lot of effort and possibly save your cutter. kobblers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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