NYKeys Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 They're NOT from the Gibbons range I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Muppet Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 Pretty sure they are from a Yale rim lock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 Cheap ass piece of crap series. kobblers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 We cut them using universal rim and charge £10 for the privilege. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 We cut them using universal rim and charge £10 for the privilege. Same here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYKeys Posted April 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 Same here! Wow - that's an expensive key. We only charge £5. Are all your universal rim £10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 Normal mortice £8 + bit of filing by hand and measuring/checking = £10 Auto Key Wizard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 Remember when cutting these 5/8, 3/4 bit keys, it will shorten cutter life, hence the charge. Both face and ward cutters are usually needed. gavin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brightonkeys Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 Remember when cutting these 5/8, 3/4 bit keys, it will shorten cutter life, hence the charge. Both face and ward cutters are usually needed. Because of the mass of material needed to be cut away before the cutting to the bit can begin? I have a solution to that. I rough dimension first using a hacksaw. kobblers and CummingsLocks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 Why do you need to cut pre cuts ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYKeys Posted April 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 Why do you need to cut pre cuts ? Can't find the pre-cuts available to buy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 http://www.aldridgesecurity.co.uk/p-1267-asec-mortice-pre-cut-blank-to-suit-gibbons-23g-ts230.aspx Lists them as suitable for the Yale 23G/47/60 Series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYKeys Posted April 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 http://www.aldridgesecurity.co.uk/p-1267-asec-mortice-pre-cut-blank-to-suit-gibbons-23g-ts230.aspx Lists them as suitable for the Yale 23G/47/60 Series Hmmm. Now I'm confused. Because I have this set of pre-cuts on my boards and they invariably don't even nearly resemble the keys customers bring in stamped 'C13' for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Friend Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 i WOULD HAVE SAID http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GIBBONS-YALE-PRE-CUT-MORTICE-KEY-SUIT-RIM-LOCKS-7-12-AND-C13-C24-SERIES-/151517451912 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYKeys Posted April 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 i WOULD HAVE SAID http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GIBBONS-YALE-PRE-CUT-MORTICE-KEY-SUIT-RIM-LOCKS-7-12-AND-C13-C24-SERIES-/151517451912 MICK ANY THOUGHTS ON THE ISSUE REGARDING WHAT SERIES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Friend Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 I did think Gibbons, but the Yale seems to crop up -I know you only need one to make it a master though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Friend Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 davenports list them as K477 YALE GIBBONS RIM PRECUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyman Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 These are a different series of keys to the old Gibbons / Yale / Century rim keys. I have seen quite a few before, and still do now, none resemble our precut keys. If memory serves, they are a different gauge too, so no cheeky 'adapting' of precuts either. More's the pity. Hacksaw key bit down to required height. Cut bit, sidewards and all, then trim shaft to required length or you'll have your customer telling you "that's not going to work, the end is too long", despite you wasting no end of oxygen and energy explaining that the end of the key will be going into fresh air! This is why Terry is charging a tenner a pop. I don't, if only I could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 Where are you all buying these super tough rim blanks from ?. I buy mine from Aldridges and cut the keys on the machine really easy 5/8 bit takes 1 1/2 minute tops. We charge £6.95 inc vat. kobblers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYKeys Posted April 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 Where are you all buying these super tough rim blanks from ?. SKS SKS SKS These are a different series of keys to the old Gibbons / Yale / Century rim keys.[...] , none resemble our precut keys.[...] they are a different gauge too, so no cheeky 'adapting' of precuts either. Thank you! Finally!! keyman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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