Darren2 Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 Hi all, i am thinking of buying the keypro m8 with800tokens and wondering if anyone would recommend it. Its out of stock in most place so if anyone is selling one or knows where i can get one that would be great? Cheers, D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapidlocks Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 i suspect AD have finally managed to halt production of this , top marks to them if they have. its chinese counterfeit , so you pay your money and take your chances with it , ive seen posts on them where they have died , but plenty say its good which it should be if a copy of mvp pro , but is 3 or more years out of date now but from what i read some last and some die. MVP pro has moved on considerably since the counterfeit version , so id stick to original as far better and more up to date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren2 Posted February 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 Hi there, Thanks for that, i'll have a think about it, it's very difficult to find it now anyway. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapidlocks Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 the trouble with counterfeit products is they have no support , if they die its an arm and a leg to send back for repair and not unusual to never see it again once sent back . its very cheap , but does have negatives . also if chinese stop selling the tokens for it too then all units have a limited life . buy original mvp pro and as much token free kit like truecode as you can for token savers , or if busy enough get an unlimited plan , at least with original you have warranty , extended warranty , support and most important updates . china is cheap and the lure strong , but many do come unstuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren2 Posted February 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 Thanks for that its food for thought, like you said it's the price really as mvp is very expensive but sounds like the right route to go. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapidlocks Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 all good diagnostic kit is dearer than chinese counterfeit kit , but unlike counterfeit goods original equipment has development cost and has to supply updates , warranty and support , a counterfitter just steals what they can and sells cheap with no warranty and no support, and often as little as 40% of the claimed coverage works. the cost of an mvp is just the tip of the iceburg , 1 programmer is not enough as they all have their strengths and weaknesses so to avoid fails and walk aways multiple options are required , then stock and equipment on top , the mvp pro is actually just a small part of the investment needed . i always advise good token free coverage , as a token free unit at some time pays back and moves into profit , a token unit always has token costs or unlimited use scheme costs which can make you non competative against token free competitors . you need to consider what it is you want coverage on , and what coverage you expect on vehicles to match the correct kit for you your needs and your expectations , if mvp pro is the kit for you then is it more cost effective on tokens or unlimited use , this depends on how many jobs a day you do with it . you then need to decide how important support is to you , for when things go wrong , how important a warranty or extended warranty is when it breaks down , and how important updates are to keep working on future models rather than just being stuck on older models . there exists some very good china kit that isnt a counterfeit product they do have some excellent kit they have developed , handy baby , vvdi 2 and vvdi mb tool come to mind , but despite being good original developments , support is lacking as is good manuals for use , especially with tools like vvdi where so many problems can be created if you dont know your systems . theres also alot of poor kit from china , some that simply doesnt do all it claims to the extreme of some that bricks the car you plug it into , but as chinese your on your own with the fall out or losses. cost is only dear if you cant make it pay its way , ie if busy enough it pays back quickly if not busy enough its a slower process , but as with running any business , you rely on your investments paying their way and being reliable , something you cant guarantee from china , the old saying of buy cheap buy twice springs to mind. also regarding cost , for any business , the purchase of business assets is tax deductable and is eventually reclaimed . you really need to look at , what coverage you require , ie makes , models and years , all key lost work or just spare key work , then look at current knowledge of car systems , immobilisers and keys so you know what you can cover without additional training and support if you hit issues you cant resolve , then what kit and investment is needed to meet your needs and what kit suits them best . kobblers, nabby and Rocks Locks 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocks Locks Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 If we all stop buying knock off products and trying to be the cheapest guy on the road we all may still be making a small profit in years to come Neal Southern and lockdecoders 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
completelocks Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 Get a key scan and a SKP900 together with VPC100 for the codes. I sold my MVP Pro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren2 Posted February 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 Thanks, i have the skp900 so will look at getting the VPC100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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