kobblers Posted March 22, 2016 Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 I may have got myself a contract for a large amount of glass tumblers, on a regular basis. Does anyone know what the best machine would be to quickly turn around high quality work? Cheers. Rick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted March 22, 2016 Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 Probably a laser, or sandblasting cabinet for a smaller budget!! kobblers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted March 22, 2016 Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 Unless you have no machines the initial outlay cost for equipment is going to eat in to your profit margins Rick.........And if they find someone cheaper they will drop you like a stone..............Sandblasting can be time consuming........Laser is going to be quicker............Consider farming the work out to someone like Craig and still make a profit?......Depends on quantity. kobblers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenB Posted March 22, 2016 Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 I'd have thought a laser machine would be the answer. I'm no expert, but HPC seem to offer machines at a great price point if it is enough of an ongoing order to make it pay long term. Alternatively, THESE FOLKS offer a great trade service for engraved bulk items. kobblers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Gardner Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 I may have got myself a contract for a large amount of glass tumblers, on a regular basis. Does anyone know what the best machine would be to quickly turn around high quality work? Cheers. Rick. If buying a laser buy a real one not a Chinese water cooled one like the hpc get a speedy 100 or above from trotec with cylindrical attachment and you wont look back but it will cost around 20k or pm me details for a great trade price for the work. I do a lot of drop shipped work with plain packaging so no need to worry about customer trying to cut you out of the deal. Craig kobblers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenB Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 If buying a laser buy a real one not a Chinese water cooled one like the hpc get a speedy 100 or above from trotec with cylindrical attachment and you wont look back but it will cost around 20k Craig Not many of us have £20k to spend on a machine to trial a new service. What is the difference between the two that makes the £20k machine better? Specifically, does the finished job look any different, or is it just about the build quality & longevity of the machines? If the end job is the same, I'd rather spend £5k to test the market, knowing that I'm not breaking the bank in doing so - and if the £20k machine lasts 4 times longer, I'll buy 3 more £5k machines as they wear out & still be no worse off... Despite how it might sound, this is a genuine question, not just an attempt to start an argument, I'm genuinely interested in whether the difference is more than just money. hibsjo(SCO) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 There's a Facebook group for laser engravers and most of them have Chinese lasers. They generally seem happy with them and some of the pictures they post look up to standard. They're not without flaws though, they seem to be a bit of hassle to set up and get running. With the non-Chinese ones, it's pretty much plug in and go (software learning aside). Could be worth joining and having look through, you may get some good ideas too, I find it interesting to see what people get up too with their lasers. These are the two I've joined. http://www.facebook.com/groups/709473125838833/ http://www.facebook.com/groups/441613082637047/ FWIW £20k is a bit OTT for an entry level laser to do glasses - Gravograph, Trotec etc will sell you one for about half that, if not less. It would be worth your time visiting the Sign show next month if lasers are the way you want to go. Even if you do go Chinese, it would be worth seeing what they can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Gardner Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 Not many of us have £20k to spend on a machine to trial a new service. What is the difference between the two that makes the £20k machine better? Specifically, does the finished job look any different, or is it just about the build quality & longevity of the machines? If the end job is the same, I'd rather spend £5k to test the market, knowing that I'm not breaking the bank in doing so - and if the £20k machine lasts 4 times longer, I'll buy 3 more £5k machines as they wear out & still be no worse off... Despite how it might sound, this is a genuine question, not just an attempt to start an argument, I'm genuinely interested in whether the difference is more than just money. Lasers are all about speed and detail quality of finished job I once bought a Chinese water cooled machine waste of money resold to another mug on eBay that thought a cheap laser was the answer. Trotec speedy machines are named speedy for a reason the fine detail and precision are excellent. Power output from a water cooled laser will fluctuate and not enable fine detail to be engraved to a high standard also lifespan of the laser tubes are terrible. on a speedy machine I could put in a Standard A4 sheet of paper and engrave fine detail logo work and not burn it or cut through it no cheap Chinese machine will match the quality of job finish. My speedy machine does a lot more than double the work my universal 350 will do and it's only double the price of a 350. I engrave glass tankards fully filled text around 30 words over 6 lines to a very high standard in around 40 seconds a tankard. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Gardner Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 What did you decide on Rick laser or sand blaster Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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