elfman Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 just a little tit bit ,david camerons father in law says out as he has inside knowledge on plans by the eu to raid the pension pots and to harmonise the tax system of member states so that it is all controlled from brussels ,as an ex ceo of a large pension fund he has seen the proposals and estimates the bill to be around 150 billion ,he also states that they have already imposed red tape on insurance companies costing them 3 billion so far , if you vote to stay then be careful what you wish for kobblers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobblers Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 I think I've swayed again and I'm going to vote OUT. The border issue is big with me and thinking to the future I think I should trust Britain and British business to do what it does best and what it used to be the best at, Trading with the World over Welcome to The Dark Side, Keith I agree wholeheartedly with your statement. Rick. Autotechnix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 tbh no one up here gives a flying fukk about the in out ref. we are treated already like 2nd class citizens it would only get worse i think if we voted out. thats why you guys down saff should have had a vote to see if we stay in the UK. LOL cos the scottish vote is going to keep you in the EU sorry ! carry on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 Danny King........ Nicola Sturgeon is Mary doll pmsl carry on! Lee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobblers Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 For those on the fence, just think about this and then decide what you would HONESTLY do: If you'd never been part of, but were now asked to join the EU, in its current financial state, with levels of unprecedented youth unemployment and failing economies and, also, handing over most of your Sovereign Rights to an unelected body who can override your own country's laws. If this same body decided to pay your fishermen to burn their boats whilst letting other states have full access to our fishing waters. Would you join it? Rick. Mike at Vauxhall and grahamparker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 tbh no one up here gives a flying fukk about the in out ref. we are treated already like 2nd class citizens it would only get worse i think if we voted out. thats why you guys down saff should have had a vote to see if we stay in the UK. LOL cos the scottish vote is going to keep you in the EU sorry ! carry on! But if you vote OUT then the scottish government can say we don't want out and go for another independence vote, then you can leave and rejoin the EU sinking ship. So if the scots all vote out now they can go there own way in the future and i wish you the best of luck with that. Autotechnix and kobblers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfman Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 have said it before and will repeat it , I do not know any alive in this country that voted to be in the eu , the fact that we are in it is because we voted to join the common market which no longer exists in the form we joined and has some how grown into the eu and all our respective governments have just rolled with it without realising where it was going or leading to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 it doesnt work that way Graham if the scots vote to stay and the rest of the country votes to leave the SNP then have a mandate to push for a second referendum if the whole of Scotland votes to leave SNP have no mandate its not complicated carry on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 have said it before and will repeat it , I do not know any alive in this country that voted to be in the eu , the fact that we are in it is because we voted to join the common market which no longer exists in the form we joined and has some how grown into the eu and all our respective governments have just rolled with it without realising where it was going or leading to this is what i find funny about all of this i bet youve voted for your mep everytime there s been a vote Eric carry on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfman Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 sorry hibs I was a young lad in my 20s when they had the vote to join the common market did not vote then and have never voted for an mep but will vote out in this one kobblers and Autotechnix 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted June 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Not long now, until the polling stations open 7am - 10pm. Has anyone changed there mind through out the campaigning? I know I haven't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercoulson Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Gone from hovering to certain which way to vote no change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 No, i was out from the very first minute the vote was announced. kobblers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Defo out, trust British business!!!!! kobblers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 im in i trust british business just dont trust the british mps carry on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 im in i trust british business just dont trust the british mps carry on! Does anyone trust any M.P.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrkeys Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Not long now, until the polling stations open 7am - 10pm. Has anyone changed there mind through out the campaigning? I know I haven't. Ive changed my mind on several occasions as I've listed to both sides currently leaning towards out, I just don't buy what the scare mongerers (government) are trying to sell. They've lied to me and the country too many times. How many times does a proven lair keep peddling lie after lie after lie and exhibit corruption after corruption, at some point I'm sorry but I will stop listening to you and say fooook you you've lied far too many times for me to ever take you seriously ever again my opinion? far more truth is coming from the OUT camp and I think their arguements stand up better under scrutiny. After months of banging my head I'm OUT kobblers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Look how much money the Kinnocks get for being NON elected euro mp's. It's just a massive Gravy Train and we all pay for it. If there are rules set we (and the Germans to be fair) obey them but if the French, Spanish and a few others disagree they just stick to fingers up and do what they want. kobblers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike at Vauxhall Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Voted out this morning. .... tried to vote in last night, but my wife said no! kobblers and Lee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobblers Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 After months of researching and watching Lord knows how many videos, my mind is firmly set on OUT. I know of only 2 people who want to remain out of all of those that I've spoken to. Rick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Not sure how true it is, (because I hate anything to do with politics and religion as they're all based on lies and exaggerations!!) but a friend told me this morning that he had read an article about how, even if the "out" vote wins, it is not a legally binding referendum and the government can meet and still decide that we're not leaving and try and re-negotiate a different deal!!! WHAT'S THE F***ING POINT!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted June 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 that would never happen though, would it? could you imagine the trouble that would cause Michael! I voted at 7.10am, even then the polling station was busy. I saw a head line from some "bod" in the EU on a paper this mornings saying "Out means OUT" scare mongers, er hello if we vote out, we mean OUT. Let the public decide. grahamparker and kobblers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted June 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Don't forget the chat rooms open all day long, sometimes you'll get long delays in replies as we are mostly shop based & serving, but its a great place to have a debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike at Vauxhall Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Not sure how true it is, (because I hate anything to do with politics and religion as they're all based on lies and exaggerations!!) but a friend told me this morning that he had read an article about how, even if the "out" vote wins, it is not a legally binding referendum and the government can meet and still decide that we're not leaving and try and re-negotiate a different deal!!! WHAT'S THE F***ING POINT!! I've read that also. I've also read that it won't be binding because although england is predominantly out, scotland, Wales and N I are predominantly remain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 If the OUT choice has more votes that is what they will do SIMPLES. Anything other than that is in conspiracy theory territory. Although a couple of my friends have asked for a black biro so that there choice cannot be rubbed out and altered. kobblers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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