Carlito Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 Years ago we had a machine called a smartclone in fact I might still have it, it was used for Keyline battery heads I think it only had very limited capabilities, if memory serves me correct we only used to be able to use it to clone 4c chips But our problem was that the battery heads kept coming back all run down and had stopped working, (Usually after 6 months-2 years) this is why we stopped using these types of keys in the past, my question is are modern day battery heads any more reliable than they were in the early days??? Obviously like most people on here I'm looking at upgrading our current cloners and just deciding which option is for us. We currently have an old JMA Trs-5000 with the TPH and TPX boxes but I think JMA appear to be a little behind Silca and Keyline given these recent developments any info on the recent batteries folks? Keyline electronic heads are batteryless, everlasting, since 2010. have a nice christmas to all mrkeys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrkeys Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 Thanks Simong and Carlito ill be looking into all options in the new year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simong Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 I wonder when zed full and Abrites will clone id48 on that note have a good xmas and new year to everybody on here . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbump69 Posted December 25, 2015 Report Share Posted December 25, 2015 ....JMA appear to be a little behind Silca and Keyline given these recent developments how? behind keyline. yes. But very equal with silca I think. What have silca done but take money on promises because they know keyline are ready to sell working things months before them. Carlito and Lee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted December 25, 2015 Report Share Posted December 25, 2015 www.shoerepairer.info 24/7 365 days a year! Even Christmas day! grahamparker and Carlito 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Friend Posted December 25, 2015 Report Share Posted December 25, 2015 dedicated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrkeys Posted December 25, 2015 Report Share Posted December 25, 2015 how? behind keyline. yes. But very equal with silca I think. What have silca done but take money on promises because they know keyline are ready to sell working things months before them. They appear to be behind Keyline and Silca because Keyline already have a product on the market that does ID48 and Silca are currently taking orders for an ID48 solution. JMA on the other hand have not yet advertised a solution (The first ive heard was earlier in this thread) I cant find anything else online regarding a solution from JMA and when I asked in October SKS said developments happen all the time but nothing is nearing completion yet. This is why they "Appear" to be behind the other 2 ill do some ringing round in the New Year to be honest I want to stick with what we are currently stocked up with (JMA) but this will mean a new TRS EVO and upgrade - fingers crossed they produce something quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeback Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 Those that pre-order get a 25% discount on the retail price which should compensate for any lost interest. Matt, Pre-ordered mine when first announced. Does the M-Box integrate the P-Box functionality, so you only need the new "sniffer" to cover both ID46 and ID48. or does it bolt under the P-Box? Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt@Silca Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Matt, Pre-ordered mine when first announced. Does the M-Box integrate the P-Box functionality, so you only need the new "sniffer" to cover both ID46 and ID48. or does it bolt under the P-Box? Regards If you have a P-box, it will bolt underneath it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeback Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 If you have a P-box, it will bolt underneath it. Thanks for confirming Matt, Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 I can now say it operates by wifi now that Aldridges have released a picture of the M box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeback Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Bluetooth as well I hope as I'm mobile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 I'm not sure this keyline "love in season" is as good as every one is letting on a big point has not been spoke about. I would say company with the biggest balls but not as far ahead as everyone making out. Everyone been around the 48 chip for a while. If you at how the Super VAG works with the Miraclone its the same thing as cloning. All they have done is released there's first. The trouble with the Keyline solution is it use heads and most VAG group vehicles need remote. Not all but most as its the lower spec cars which don't have alarms. So yes it can clone 95% of the chips but only for low spec cars. Its great some has done it and now people will follow. But no one seems to have pointed out that you need remote keys for most cars. For whoever is interested, Keyline launched Glass cloning chips for 884 Decryptor Ultegra and 884-Mini. GKM and GK100 are the new glass chips from the Micro Series. GKM* for cloning keys with Megamos® Crypto (ID48) and Megamos® fixed code transponders. GK100 for cloning keys with Philips® Crypto (ID46), Texas® Crypto (4D) and Texas® fixed code (4C) transponders. GKM and GK100 perfectly fit into Pod Keys and Keyline TKXXGE heads equipped with the proper adaptor. Keyline have more than 100 pod keys references available. To clone Megamos® Crypto transponders with GKM it is necessary to activate your 884 Decryptor Mini and 884 Decryptor Ultegra with the TKM. Xtreme Kit. GKM and GK100 are rewritable and batteryless as they work through inductive coupling with the car's control unit. http://www.keyline.i.../gkm-gk100.html Autotechnix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simes Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 Too be fair, most of these keys are purchased as a spare for use if the main key is lost. The great thing about VAG is that once the key is placed in the ignition and turned to the on position the alarm is disarmed. You even get 5-10 seconds before the alarm will sound. Not a problem if explained to the customer in advance. Otherwise, if remotes are needed then a diagnostic solution is available for most vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapidlocks Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 This is a positive release from keyline responding to comments on this and other forums of users not liking the tk heads and wanting a small chip solution , so they have responded by releasing a small chip solution that fits in pod keys and into oem remote keys as this is what users have said they wanted . they were first to release full id48 cloning , and are also the 1st to release a small chip solution so we can use the clone chip in a pod key or a remote key , credit where its due , that is an impressive release and another 1st , and as it stands today keyline are the only cloner that have full id48 cloning and the only ones to have this to a chip that fits in pod keys and remotes . hats off to them for listening to their customers and doing what was asked of them , they cant do much more than that . Carlito 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 If only they had produced a carbon version as that is the next step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrkeys Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 If only they had produced a carbon version as that is the next step. Agreed ! Had my sales rep round from SKS he tells me the JMA solution due to be released this year will do exactly this, ............seen the pictures .........................got all moist just waiting for the release date now, ill be signing up as soon as its available Autotechnix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapidlocks Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 i use the cn3 chips as my carbon option , cheap and reliable . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeback Posted April 5, 2016 Report Share Posted April 5, 2016 Anyone heard any news regarding the M-Box release, thought it was meant to be Spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted April 5, 2016 Report Share Posted April 5, 2016 Anyone heard any news regarding the M-Box release, thought it was meant to be Spring. Not heard anything yet!! Is it spring?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 Spoke to Lee at Silca on Monday and Andy Lewis at Aldridges yesterday and they are about ready to leave the factory soon. So hopefully they will be here before the end of April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 so June it is then carry on! grahamparker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 Lee was very confident it would be within the next 2 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lock&quay Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 & then Italy will be shut down for 6 weeks & if that happens people will be asking for their deposits back . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 deposits on old technology... how quaint. Broms Cobb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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