lock&quay Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 I got an email from Silca marketing today advertising this ,can anyone explain what this is all about ? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Sounds like the AD100/MVP scenario. You pay a lot cheaper price to get the machine but have to pay for tokens everytime you use it. Cheaper way to start but could end up costing a lot more in the long run. No prices listed anywhere yet so cannot tell you if it is a good idea or not. http://www.silca.biz/en/products/key-replacement-business/electronic-key-cutting-machines/122012-1337644/futura-automotive-token.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lock&quay Posted October 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 what's to stop you buying the machine & running it from Insta Code ? I wonder ? Why doesn't someone just make a machine to run off of Instacode & not bother with internal cards at all that should bring the cost right down . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt@Silca Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 what's to stop you buying the machine & running it from Insta Code ? I wonder ? Why doesn't someone just make a machine to run off of Instacode & not bother with internal cards at all that should bring the cost right down . Why would you pay extra for software that is already built into a machine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broms Cobb Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 With The trouble I experienced with this machine - (after sending back after months of trouble etc) we would not take it if it were free - except for the price of any tokens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lock&quay Posted October 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Are you suggesting that software development does not add anything to the machine pricing? A "dumb" machine should cost less. A friend of mine has a CNC company & when I showed him my Viper (machine that is ) & told him the cost of it He said that He could only assume that most of that cost must have been for the software . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt@Silca Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Are you suggesting that software development does not add anything to the machine pricing? A "dumb" machine should cost less. After market software (such as Instacode) does not transmit a data card to a machine, it relies upon the machine having an internal data card and simply inserts the cuts. Without the development of the data cards within the machines themselves (from any manufacturer), external software is unable to work with them. My point in the case of the Futura or Viper (which not only has data cards built in but also code series as well) is that purchasing after market software would be paying for something that you already have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 A friend of mine has a CNC company & when I showed him my Viper (machine that is ) & told him the cost of it He said that He could only assume that most of that cost must have been for the software . As well as the development of the machine. Thousands are spent developing machines before they even go into production, these costs have to be recouped at some point, if not why would anybody ever make a machine if it wasn't going to make them a profit. keithm, hibsjo(SCO) and lockdecoders 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lock&quay Posted November 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 Is there any pricing info on this yet ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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