StevenB Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Had a customer in this morning to get their eBay special Vauxhall key blank cut, but the tracer/blade of my venerable CEA Top Young machine was too big to fit in the channel. Following a call to NW keys, (who had never heard of the machine & found no mention of it anywhere in their records) they couldn't find any clues as to whether narrower blades & tracers are even available. It's got me thinking as to whether this is the next bit of kit I ought to upgrade. We have currently got no way to cut dimple keys, a situation that really needs addressing, so I'm after advice as to what machines you guys would recommend to enable us to cut laser & dimple keys. Over to you...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Rst mustang is a great piece of kit, comes with a load of cutters as well as having tilting jaws as well as clamps for cutting tubular keys. I bought mine to cut magnum keys but it has come in handy as a back up for my Triax. StevenB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lock Stock Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Depends what you want to spend? Rst mustang is a great piece of kit, comes with a load of cutters as well as having tilting jaws as well as clamps for cutting tubular keys. I bought mine to cut magnum keys but it has come in handy as a back up for my Triax. Like Graham said a good manual machine or you could go electronic. In our smaller shop we have a A9 which is easy to use and good little all round machine. Dose laser and Dimple with issue. It can also do cylinder keys as well but its not quite as good at that unlike the laser and dimple it was designed for. The adapters and cutter are very releasable for doing new stuff, there also tech support. For the price I think there really good value. That said though If I was looking to do a lot of keys I would use Silca like In the other shops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenB Posted September 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 I've had a look at the Mustang this afternoon, looks like a good machine at a good price - what price does the A9 come in at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lock Stock Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 There is a newer version of the A9 coming out around now. Price for newer model is £4815 (this now comes with a bigger tablet and the auto and dimple jaws) The older model comes with small tablet, Auto, Dimple and Cylinder jaws. Special price while stock last £4295 was £4895 one Demo unit left (older model) 80-100 keys cut, £3900 Additional jaws range from £30 - £230 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lock Stock Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 I might have a new job in machine sales, never liked keys anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenB Posted September 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Depends what you want to spend? Price for newer model is £4815 Blimey, wasn't looking at that level of investment at this point.Looks like it's the Mustang for me then. Thanks chaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 mustang is good but crap on the tubular keys had one and good for laser and dimple carry on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisorros Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Has anyone seen this miracle M501. Looks like nice bit of kit. Should be at the show this weekend. I think around about a £1000. http://www.lockdecoders.com/detail.asp?id=376 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysinthecity Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 How does the M501 compare against the A9? Any recommendations either way? I'm in a similar boat to SteveyB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 Has anyone seen this miracle M501. Looks like nice bit of kit. Should be at the show this weekend. I think around about a £1000. http://www.lockdecoders.com/detail.asp?id=376 The mustang comes with all the cutters and tilting jaw as standard. hibsjo(SCO) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisorros Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 How much is the mustang? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 £1195.00 + vat. I got mine on 12months interest free from SKS. There might be some deals available this weekend at the MLA show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysinthecity Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 Rst mustang is a great piece of kit Will it do Mul-T-Lock Garrison keys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 yes with the correct tracer and cutter carry on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neal Southern Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 Miracle M501 is a manual dimple and laser machine and has tilting jaws. Its worth looking at. lockdecoders 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockandKey Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 yes with the correct tracer and cutter carry on! Garrison keys use one cutter - no inner cuts as they don't use telescopic pins and there's no gate pins, so no tracer. No side cuts either - if you see any just ignore them as they are 'smoke & mirrors' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockandKey Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 As the machine mentioned is a manual duplicator then it needs a tracer to trace the key. Apologies - we use the term for the snake cutter as a tracer/laser cutter, it's probably just 'in house' phrases. I might be interested in a manual dimple/pattern tracer for the Pioneer & Kale keys - we have the blanks, but they lack any Silca card / codes. Pioneer, I have the electronic card & cutters but they forgot to issue cards with the locks.... Any suggestions for a retro dimple/pattern machine?? Silca would be preferable but I'm not tied down to the Italians! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 I have done a couple of Kale keys recently using the RST mustang, great solid machine with all cutters and tracers supplied with the machine as standard (except the 1.5mm tracer/cutter for magnum/yale keys). lock&quay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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