Citroen C1

[lock&quay]

Had a customer wanting to have a C1 key copied & the Silca Viper via the Insta code kept on saying it was an unacceptable cut sequence & this was a new key ? Has anyone else had this ? cheers .

[grahamparker]

Did you have the key code ??.

 

They are for some reason impossible for the Silca machines to decode due to the extra cuts in the lock and the only

way we can do them is with the code.

 

You could try card 3404 to cut the key but it isn't exact and has a limited success rate even with a depth key and a

vernier caliper.

[lock&quay]

Thanks Graham

I'm waiting for the key code , I have done these before though ? I wonder if it's because the tip might be slightly longer ?

[3D Group]

The Silca Viper will not decode the B series key number. Something to do with how the cuts swish from one side of the key in one cut making it too steep for the machine to decode. If you have the key number it will cut it though. By the way you can also have issues putting depths in also if you decode the lock.

You may also get this problem with a lot of the new Citroen and Peugeot keys as they have been swapping to this type of cut from 2011. Instead of 123456 cuts its 1234QH.

 

Do you try and decode under something else like Renault because the measurements are different.

[hibsjo(SCO)]

is it not a toyota aygo?

we have cut them under this previously (im sure)

carry on!

[3D Group]

Yes they are a Toyota Aygo but the Viper will not decode under the B series key number. Some people say they have but must be mixed up with just decoding under VA2 and using the different measurements of cuts.

[lock&quay]

Thanks for the heads up , I use Instacode to run the Viper , I wonder if instacode can find a way round it or doesn't it work like that ?

[grahamparker]

Speaking to silca it is a machine decode issue rather than software.

 

We do loads of C1, Aygo and 107 keys for tow cars that are towed by motorhomes and we have had a few work

by decoding using one of the other cutting cards (but it is hit and miss).

 

The codes are usually available through the dealers without to much hassle, although they will not deal with us direct

anymore and we have to send the vehicle owner to get the codes. Gone are the days when you had a friend in the stores

who could get you the key code in a phone call.

[ponsaloti]

I'm guessing all the old fella's have sold there traditional milling machines, and the youngen's don't know how to use them.

 

I'll get me coat.

[lock&quay]

I'm guessing all the old fella's have sold there traditional milling machines, and the youngen's don't know how to use them.

 

I'll get me coat.

 

I have a HD punto right next to the Viper set up for dimple keys & I didn't even think of that now where are those cutters ?

[grahamparker]

Your absolutely right, sold my club for a stupid price when i bought the Triax and regret doing so now.

[Autotechnix]

Had a 2007 Citroen C1 in today for a spare key,

 

Cut and decoded the key with the A9 but still had to run it through the old Hurricane to finish it off.

 

Used a CN2 carbon chip in a Silca key but the car wouldn't start unless I turned the key over.

 

Cut a JMA key which held the chip closer to barrel and all good.

 

I'll stick with the Silca GTi chips next time.

[Craig Gardner]

Your absolutely right, sold my club for a stupid price when i bought the Triax and regret doing so now.

 

I keep a silca matrix beside the triax for the odd job couldn't justify buying one now a days for all it's used but wouldn't want to be without it the odd tine I use it it is handy

Craig

[extremesecurity]

I did lost keys on a Citroen C1 today and cut the key on the A5 and worked perfect