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Was given the X6 to test out this week.Has anyone got one or used one.I have found it to be a super little machine.Cuts all car keys I have given it spot on.The only thing I can not get it to do is decode VA6 and HU83 keys.Will cut a perfect key if you input cuts manually but will not decode these 2.Will decode and cut every thing else.For around £900 not bad for the money.Good machine for someone starting up or as a back up machine.

 

Hi -Please be aware As this is a copy / Counterfeit machine the software will never be updated, and any problems you find you will be stuck with and no back up support from the supplier .

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John it can be updated because I have done it and it works and produces a nice key.

Having looked online it is a copy of the A5.

But so many products are copied now.

For £900 and the A5 at £3800 one of you guys are making a serious killing.No wonder you are so worried.

I got a call from a guy in Devon who has 12 of the A6 ordered first one arriving this week and they are in English. £1000 less than buying from suppliers here.Don't know how he is doing it but says he can get spare parts as well.

 

Sadly as with most GREAT items EG AD100 / MVP Pro's / Bianchi 884's etc, the Years of Development and ongoing Costs in the software is ignored when the Chinese copy and Steal the software.This development is what you pay for and the Ongoing FREE support from the A5 / A6 / A9 machines makers, Please be aware of this when trying to compare prices!

Also quote customers talking to me in general about things like this - how the Chinese copy machines will flood the market place and devalue the business place , as in anyone with a little know how will try and buy say an AD100 Copy for £100 in place of £20k Original, they then take your potential customers and undercharge you or the next mobile locksmith ! .

Then also with the possibility of the original manufactures to go out of business / no more software development and then no more support / then no more further business for yourselves !

Please bare this in mind when buying copy machines .. But ....

 

This all said there is still copyright on this software and legally anyone using a copied machine / Software Be LockDecoders / Advanced Diagnostics / InstaCode / Etc ... with copied software are in fact breaking the Law ! ! !

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I see so the SKS 2in1 picks look exactly the same and operate in the same manner as a genuine Lishi pick but they are not copies?..................... in that case i stand corrected :D

 

I believe you could say this about many tools made on the market -, but yes these are not stamped Lishi - and are not Lishi , hope that helps .

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John you are streching.Smart picks copies of the Lishi.Did you not get in trouble for selling these and you had to do a massive back track.They look like Lishi.Bit rich slagging off X6 when you are at it yourself.People in glass houses.

 

I believe only people working for that Trade company knew the information on this, but to help I believe the Company using "Smart" Logo sold Their own picks, I also believe the Logo looked simular to Lishi Logo - Lishi asked for the Logo not to be used - hence No logo - this then allows the original SKS 2 in 1 pick to be sold .

 

I know the makers/suppliers who own the software on the X6 are taking actions against the X6 -

hope this all helps .

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John you are streching.Smart picks copies of the Lishi.Did you not get in trouble for selling these and you had to do a massive back track.They look like Lishi.Bit rich slagging off X6 when you are at it yourself.People in glass houses.

 

I believe only people working for that Trade company knew the information on this, but to help I believe the Company using "Smart" Logo sold Their own picks, I also believe the Logo looked simular to Lishi Logo - Lishi asked for the Logo not to be used - hence No logo - this then allows the original SKS 2 in 1 pick to be sold .

 

I know the makers/suppliers who own the software on the X6 are taking actions against the X6 -

hope this all helps .

 

so the x6 looks like its here to stay and a much cheaper alternative to the poor a5 based on price but if its a copy of the a5 its still a poor machine but at 1k a great starter machine untill you can afford a silca machine

 

craig

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With regards lishi , Auto smart do copy mr li tools , within 6 weeks of Mr Li releasing a tool auto smart copy it , Mr Li did try and defend his patent in china but lost , as it was deemed that a name change and change of metal was deemed enough to make it a different tool in china , but like with x6 smart did no development they copied mr li tools , so no matter how it is dressed , these are still copies of li tools , they are not the only legal copy and i bet not the last .

With this said smart do develop a few 2in1 readers themselves that li doesnt make , so they are now developing some tools only these few are truly original tools.

The distributors selling smart tools do so legally so as far as 2in1 go thats it , copies that dont breach logo and trademarks are legal but can never be classed as original .

 

But for resellers and distributors copies make money , but their is always a victim , in the case of smart and all other copied brands of 2in1 the victim is Mr Li the inventor , in the case of this machine its mr Ho and peter who spend thousands of pounds and immense time developing the product , silca , abrites , true code , advanced diagnostics etc etc , all victims in reality , what though happens when developers stop developing as pointless doing so.

 

but as john said , the same could be said for most tools , diag kit , cutting machines etc , all can be argued as copies from each other in some way shape or form and dressed differently for sale .

 

with regards the X6 , if this is a direct copy of the A5 , then although not unexpected , it is totally wrong , i know the work that peter has put into this machine , the development , support and back up etc , it must be a heart wrenching feeling to see this just stolen , i hope he defends it and wins , i agree that there is a huge difference between price , but there is also a huge difference in workload and development and investment .

 

giving forum time to such a machine doesnt harm it , it helps it , as many will buy and use it , just as many use clone sbb , clone abrites , clone mvp pro etc etc , but rarely admit doing so , all the time people buy knock off , the chinese will make it , and resellers will sell it , and if they can do so legally distributors will sell it , may not be right , but as long as people buy then it wont go away.

Look at copy car keys , copy remotes , many buy and use these , they are still copies .

 

it is hard to defend a product , it is hard to stop cheaper copies comming out , so its something thats not going away anytime soon , you can debate the rights and wrongs , point fingers , buy or not buy , at end of day its sadly todays market in most trades , not just this one.

 

but to all who do buy and use copy machines , good luck, its down to choice , but dont be the 1st to moan when undercutters and beer money boys undercut and kill the market or the machine dies , as its an unavoidable knock on effect .

 

i bought a silca viper and its served me well , the support and back up from silca has been excellent , thanks mainly to matt at silca uk , this is probably been one of my best investments .

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Ive praised matt at silca on many forums , as he doesnt just look after you , he goes more than an extra mile to help resolve problems , this and the excellent products silca make , makes it obvious why it costs more to buy , so if silca look in , pay matt a fortune , hes worth it and some.

 

you cant put a value on good support and back up , something that is often missed in the quest for a cheap product .

 

i know lockdecoders offer excellent support to their customers too , whaich surely has to have some financial value .

 

i just hope quality manufacturers and developers are not all fighting a losing battle in the quest for cheap .

 

the old adage of you always get exactly what you pay for is still true , as is buy cheap buy twice , an expensive lesson we have all learnt at some time.

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Ive praised matt at silca on many forums , as he doesnt just look after you , he goes more than an extra mile to help resolve problems , this and the excellent products silca make , makes it obvious why it costs more to buy , so if silca look in , pay matt a fortune , hes worth it and some.

 

you cant put a value on good support and back up , something that is often missed in the quest for a cheap product .

 

i know lockdecoders offer excellent support to their customers too , which surely has to have some financial value .

 

i just hope quality manufacturers and developers are not all fighting a losing battle in the quest for cheap .

 

the old adage of you always get exactly what you pay for is still true , as is buy cheap buy twice , an expensive lesson we have all learned at some time.

 

 

Well said that man, i agree totally with you that Matt is a great guy and Silca machines are the best by far.

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Agree, I see Matt at shows and hes always happy and helpful. Silca Computerized machines are good, just many are to pricey for the end customer - same with the JMA and KL computerized machines all great but sadly hard on the pocket. Hence these A5 / A6 / A9s give a gap in the market to help customer out who can not afford these other machines .

 

Believe it or not I think I have found China has also copied the Silca Viper as well in doing a few searches on the net, Not good :!:

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