actionman Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Hi i came to do my 1st jaguar tibbe key yesterday with my Silca Delta Fo & i couldn't for the life in me get the machuine set up how it needs to be to do the 8 cuts. Basically i loosened off the screw that allows the arrow to be moved to next to the "J" but when i have it in jaguar position "A" for the 1st cut the blank key seems too far over to the right so the blade will cut into the stem. I just can't see how i can get the key in the correct postion Anybody? Oh & i've only been cutting keys for 2 months & have had no probs doing ford keys or cylinder keys with my other machine thanks Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Muppet Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Sorry if this sounds like I'm taking the p££s, have you checked you are using a jag tibbe and not a ford one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3D Group Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Send me a few pictures to my email dan.sanderson@3dgroupuk.com of the cradle with key in and markings. Take a few pictures and I will try and help you. What you are explaining seems you have done correctly but you may of missed something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
actionman Posted January 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Sorry if this sounds like I'm taking the p££s, have you checked you are using a jag tibbe and not a ford one? no mate don't worry about it. Yes it's def a Jag tibbe, was genuine key in Jag packet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
actionman Posted January 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Send me a few pictures to my email dan.sanderson@3dgroupuk.com of the cradle with key in and markings. Take a few pictures and I will try and help you. What you are explaining seems you have done correctly but you may of missed something. Not got it now, the guy i was going to cut it for has got it now. I'll try get hold of it again Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 On the left hand side of the jaw there are two sets of numbers,one in red 1 through to 8 for jaguar and a set to the right in white which you use for ford 1 through to 6.That is how you cut the 8 cuts instead of 6. You loosen then end screw where the tip goes in and move the mark round to the J then use the left hand numbers to cut the 8 cuts with heights 1-3. Hope that makes sense if not pm me as i think i may have the original manual somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
actionman Posted January 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 On the left hand side of the jaw there are two sets of numbers,one in red 1 through to 8 for jaguar and a set to the right in white which you usefor ford 1 through to 6.That is how you cut the 8 cuts instead of 6. You loosen then end screw where the tip goes in and move the mark round to the J then use the left hand numbers to cut the 8 cuts with heights 1-3. Hope that makes sense if not pm me as i think i may have the original manual somewhere. this is exactly what i'd done, i also downloaded the pdf manual from the net to check it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Are you using the TBE1P key blank. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
actionman Posted January 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 no it was a genuine flip key head. He had it cut at a shop ysterday & they use the same machine i've just bought, charged him £20 to cut it! I''ve bought a JB2 flip blade from 3D Group so i can take some pics to post on here etc of trying to set it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3D Group Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 JB1 and JB2 is just a normal Ford Tibbie key. TBE1 is used on the J vice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Lets start from the beginning. What model and year was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
actionman Posted January 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 JB1 and JB2 is just a normal Ford Tibbie key. TBE1 is used on the J vice. according to your website the JB2 is listed for the 2002-08 X-Type. The car i bought it for is a 2003 X-Type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Did the key have 6 or 8 cuts. 8 cuts = TBE1P 6 cuts = FO21P (JB1,JB2) If it had six cuts then you did not need to use the J setting on the delta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3D Group Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Yes and these keys are just a normal Ford Tibbie cut key with 6 cuts and 4 depths. TBE1 is 8 cuts and 3 depths for older Jaguar's before year 2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Davis Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
actionman Posted January 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 and????? not everybody is born knowing everything, some of us have to learn it as we go along! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
actionman Posted January 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 a cut F021 next to the blank JB2 i've just bought I checked my mates Jag today & it's 8 cuts & exactly the same blade as my JB2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Did you cut the key in the top picture ?, because your machine is cutting way to deep and you WILL end up with a key jammed in a customers lock at some point. The cuts should not touch each other there should be a small gap otherwise when it is placed in a worn lock the key will not come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
actionman Posted January 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 no that's just a key that the guy i bought the machine from cut to show me what not to do. He reset the depth straight after. The only key i've had a bit of bother with was with an old transit with the most worn looking key i've ever seen. Key got stuck but managed to sort it by smoothing of the sharp edges thanks though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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