bobc Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 For anyone with some spare cash to spend on key blank reading http://www.nwkeys.co.uk/Portal.aspx?page=43&prod=8934 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kam Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 i have a chaeper one, my eyes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest quickeys Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 wish I could afford that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobblers Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 i agree with kam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slippy Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 It only suggests the type of key to use. Most pobably a universal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaloti Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 I wonder how many with more sense than money have bought one of these. Why dont people want to learn to do a job the right way anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 I hate the Lazy Universal brigade. How many Cutters now use the poxy univeral for everything that slightly resembles its profile It just causes problems later when the customer has more copies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobblers Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 i bet if i bought that machine, it'd recommend key blanks for keys that i don't stock as a matter of course i use the universal for all those keys that never seem to appear in the books. i also use it for the era 25B blank as a very knowledgeable rep once told me there was no difference against the generic blank. rick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 i bet if i bought that machine, it'd recommend key blanks for keys that i don't stock as a matter of course i use the universal for all those keys that never seem to appear in the books. i also use it for the era 25B blank as a very knowledgeable rep once told me there was no difference against the generic blank. rick. The 1a is a far nearer profile to the 25b than a universal...If you wanna use the wrong blank Who was this knowledgable rep telling lies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Tony original Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 For anyone with some spare cash to spend on key blank reading http://www.nwkeys.co.uk/Portal.aspx?page=43&prod=8934 We give away FREE a JMA Key book - Does the same with a little help from your eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest smurf Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 I think the universal blank is one of our trades best inventions , its a great time saver ,cant find the right blank within a few mins then whack it on a uni punter will be happy for quick service you save time jobs a good un. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobblers Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 who told you the 1A was a nearer profile? when they first came out, before we stocked the actual blank we tried the 1A and had no luck with it, couldn't even get it to go in the lock maybe it's differences between manufacturers' blanks, i've had 1As off one of our suppliers that looked more like a universal than a bloody universal they probably made up a truck load off unis and stamped some 1a and some with uni codes rick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 who told you the 1A was a nearer profile? when they first came out, before we stocked the actual blank we tried the 1A and had no luck with it, couldn't even get it to go in the lock maybe it's differences between manufacturers' blanks, i've had 1As off one of our suppliers that looked more like a universal than a bloody universal they probably made up a truck load off unis and stamped some 1a and some with uni codes rick. HD 1a works every time...never fails. Why not use a 25b bloody UL1's totaly crap, too weak, especially when they are a sloppy fit in the wrong lock...like an Era lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobblers Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 you must be referring to the hd UL1. i've never had a silca ulo5o break or bend in an era lock yet and if you compare the profiles end to end they're so similar as to be indifferent. how can you say they're too sloppy? hd 1A must be slightly different to silca's 1A, never got one of those to do an era yet. rick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 Trust me your wrong on all points You must need glass's if you think a UL1 ain't thinner that a 25b, which would make it sloppy in the lock period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayke Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 why not just use the correct blank for the lock than the universal rubbish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 Thankyou Jayke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest smurf Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 Oi if a universal fits then use it whats the problem ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark A Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 I've come across many cylinders with a snapped brass key over the years, but recently the only snapped steel keys I have come across have all been cut on Universal blanks....... Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 But surely it's the user breaking the key through misuse,It dont break on its own. I have argued/explained with customers who come in and say this key has broken in half that if a key is all the way in the keyway when it's turned there is no way it can break,but if you turn it before it's fully inserted it's going to twist in half.A little demo with an old cylinder and they realise it's there mistake by rushing to turn the key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Eleviate all problems or potential problems by using the correct materials for the job, as you should in all aspects of our trade People who insist on UL1 for all are not in the same league as the more conscientious key cutter, So I wouldn't expect them to understand I would expect them to be Stick-on-soles for all repairs aswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Eleviate all problems or potential problems by using the correct materials for the job, as you should in all aspects of our trade HERE HERE =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaloti Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Ye, what he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayke Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Eleviate all problems or potential problems by using the correct materials for the job, as you should in all aspects of our trade People who insist on UL1 for all are not in the same league as the more conscientious key cutter, So I wouldn't expect them to understand I would expect them to be Stick-on-soles for all repairs aswell totally agree, if your going to do a job do it properly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted June 27, 2008 Report Share Posted June 27, 2008 just bought a 299 to relace my old ecm and the rep told me i should buy the 399 which has the optika attached for easy identification! told him I dont need it for with 20 odd years key blank identification stored in the grey stuff i didnt need it. Ive realised there is more to this machine than meets the eye. If you actually take time to see its potential and have a code cutting machine then you can give them a TRUE key every time instead of a copy. However the same rep did tell me ive too many blanks on the board and the uli would cut most cylinder keys now a days? So dont shoot this machine down just yet im going to see if i can get one on trial and come back to yous on it. carry on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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