Guest samtheman Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 whitfield wylie 700 band scourer - needs new wheel, 75mm does anyone now any body who does a good deal when buying them in pairs? other than the two subscribers to the forum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 New contact wheel, Why? I'm still using originals from 1985, take them to a engineering shop & get them to skim them true & smooth again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercoulson Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 skimming them is a good idea but make sure the middle hole is ok and fits the shaft ok, any play then forget it - this can happen if the screws have come loose at some point. unfortunately these wheels are very expensive, i believe we are being held to ransom by the manufacturer who is the only one that we have found to make them. these are one item with very little mark up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 these are one item with very little mark up. must have gone to the same marketing school as Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Remember, if you skim them it will reduce the diameter which may cause some problems. Also they will tend to be out of balance unless they are re-balanced by the engineer at whatever workshop you may find to do the job! Replace them is my suggestion. Straight forward job, smoother and quieter once fitted, usually. Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 By The time you've paid an engineer shop to skim them, gone to the troublr to take them off etc. you'd be better of replacing them. In the grand scheme of costs they aren't expensive at all! Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 By The time you've paid an engineer shop to skim them, gone to the troublr to take them off etc. you'd be better of replacing them.In the grand scheme of costs they aren't expensive at all! Lee I totally agree, why pi55 about for the sake of a few quid........... You've just been on about wasting valuable time doing bookwork , carry on!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Remember, if you skim them it will reduce the diameter which may cause some problems. ...But the motor can be adjusted back to compensate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 By The time you've paid an engineer shop to skim them, gone to the troublr to take them off etc. you'd be better of replacing them.In the grand scheme of costs they aren't expensive at all! Lee I totally agree, why pi55 about for the sake of a few quid........... carry on!!!!! Taken off in five minutes at close of business, left at an engineering mate on nightshift, collected next morning & back on ready to work, both wheels for a tenner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Well Tel, you are lucky to have a mate to do that. The vast majority of guys won't Some may be able to adjust the motor as well but again, others won't. When you consider the time spent, it just doesn't stand up. Done correctly, it's a 10/15 minute job with very little adjustment anywhere! Just my opinion of course. If everyone took your view on such matters, both Si-Serve and ourselves wouldn't exist!! Keep the wheels turning I say Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windycity Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 would you replace worn tyres on your car with remoulds well then theres the answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest samtheman Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 but i find shopping around agreat way to make money. uk900 just wondered if anybody nows where to get them direct! its something i have found in this business that as time has gone on i get things cheaper and cheaper. accountants save you tax - dont make you money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Your a wise old doughnut ain't ya Good luck with your hunt, What will you spend your savings on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Standard Engineering Ltd. 10 Garrard Way, Telford Way South Kettering Northants NN16 8TD 01536 517070 Option 3 Siserve Ltd 37 Kenilworth Drive Oadby Leicester LE2 5LT 0116 271 7152 Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 If we all went straight to the manufacturers, then the job would be a nightmare, there'd be no wholsalers like CB's, Davenports etc. You'd need about a million different accounts with all manner of manufacturers. then your accountant would have to charge you more for sorting your now complicated books. Stop being a skinflint, and buy from our sponsors, they ain't summat you buy very often carry on............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Few questions for you folks,let's takle the underlying problems, 1. Why would a front contact wheel need skimming in the 1st place? 2. What is the cost of the Wheel?, cant believe there is only one engineering company in the UK that can machine new ones. 3. Where does the difficulty lye as far as engineering goes?. It aint just a 10/15 min job that your paying for either!! It's 10/15 mins time plus call out/travell time plus part cost plus carriage plus VAT if your not registered. While I'm not in favour of finding suppliers to obtain products cheaper than trade suppliers, there are times when suppliers cant or wont produce the required goods or they are purchasing local items from Engineering suppliers and adding an exorbitant mark-up, this justifies going elsewhere. Not in this case of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercoulson Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Hugh, some answers hopefully 1: assuming they may be original wheels they could be felt and lost their shape somewhat. if they are rubber they may have gone out of shape but are more likely to have lost their sides so skimming will not work. 2: cant give you an exact figure, will work on that but even to me they are a ridiculously high price, as i said we make very little selling these as a spare part, figures of between 100-200 come to mind, nearer the 200 mark. we have found only the one supplier to make these in the quantities we requier, if anyone can help us find a new supplier we would be very happy. even now we have a supply problem and not because we havent paid our bills! it is not just rubber stuck to metal, they have to be anti static. there was a time years ago when the old wh&b had some cheaper ones made but all they did was electrocute the operator!! kept them on their toes. 3: not quite sure of the question, what difficulty? the manufacture? as far as customers going direct, that is up to them. for a lot of parts our suppliers have minimum quantities and some spares are not good to replace with pattern parts. we are realistic though and when someone wants something that we know they will find a lot cheaper we tell them - air fittings are a good example - but we find most still order as they know they will get the right part. its no different for me wanting parts for my harley, i can order from america cheaper but usually buy here because the dealer is helpful and will take parts back if i dont want them but others may buy second hand parts or order from usa. each to their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Thanks Peter for painting a clearer picture for me. £200 wow a whole years winter fuel allowance for us pensioners. So long since I have seen one of these wheel that I forgot there was a Rubber coating. That would be where the high cost comes in, I could get the wheel engineered for quite a small amount but they could not put the rubber coating on. Too long ago now but I did experiment with resin and felt strips stuck on at an acute angle with a 3/8 gap between them. Works quite well and my decibel meter showed a remarkable drop in the noise levels, I concluded that the majority of the noise from these machines was air displacement and if you let the air escape via the slots between the strips then you had a quiter machine. It did not last long because the crown wheel was worn and the edges of the front wheel kept getting damaged and needed to be replaced on a rather frequent basis due to band wander. That's why I mentioned "tackling the underlying problems" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Well Tel, you are lucky to have a mate to do that. The vast majority of guys won't It's who you know Keith Some may be able to adjust the motor as well but again, others won't. Come on, It's not difficult, 4x mounting bolts & 2x adjusting bolts & locking nuts. When you consider the time spent, it just doesn't stand up. Done correctly, it's a 10/15 minute job with very little adjustment anywhere! 4x grub screws, 2 per wheel. Just my opinion of course. If everyone took your view on such matters, both Si-Serve and ourselves wouldn't exist!! Keep the wheels turning I say Keith Hey I do use the companies for specialist spares I need from time to time (except for bearings which I purchase locally from about £5 upwards), but labour/servicing I do myself, I did hire Jed in once to setup/service my Goodyear outsole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Hugh, the 10/15 mins I was refering to was for anyone to do it themselves. Tel, as you have said, it's who you know But thats obvious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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