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We have been asked to do a farmers show and they have some rather large cups that need to be engraved ! We can do upto 200mm on our is200 but some of these guys are more like 400mm !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we also have a xl300 pantograph that lets us do about 280mm.

 

How the hell do you do the big buggers ? are there any trick that can fit these big B****rds into our machine ? The man who used to do

them died ! he did them by hand...................... :?

 

any ideas welcome , :oops:

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Cheers Tel, I've never had to use an IS200 before so was unsure what the maximum parameters were. :wink:

 

Is it a case of the cups just physically not fitting in the machine?

Or that the maximum diameter it'll allow you to enter in the computer is 200mm?

 

If it's the latter, could you not "lie" to the machine and tell it it's smaller than it actually is?

 

This would probably distort the letters into a wider or thinner state (can't remember which) but you could alter the size of them accordingly.

 

To judge whether the letters are the right size before you engrave you could perform a "ghost" just above the surface of the cup.

 

EDIT: In this case I doubt it would be possible as I've just noticed some of the cups are up to 400mm :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Hi John

If theyve been hand engraved it should follow that they are hand engraved.

It looks terrible to see machine engraving on old cups that have been hand engraved from the start (SACREDLIGE)

have a guy near me who hand engraves and had a couple of guys on here that have sent them to be hand engraved....just a thought?

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Hi John

If theyve been hand engraved it should follow that they are hand engraved.

It looks terrible to see machine engraving on old cups that have been hand engraved from the start (SACREDLIGE)

have a guy near me who hand engraves and had a couple of guys on here that have sent them to be hand engraved....just a thought?

 

I feel hand engravers are a dying (and often under-rated) breed, especially in todays era where engravers appear to be ever more reliant upon computerized methods.

 

I have the utmost respect for anyone capable of performing this declining art.

 

At times, even in a world dominated by technology, you can't beat a bit of pure manual skill.

:smt063

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hey! UK how did you know that I'm from the hands on business - don't laugh fellas - I mean it - I've come from the hands on - urology technolgy business just to get away from all this178_urolog21jpg_1.jpgand now the engravers/shoe repairer are into it - hand to mouth = or is it hand and feet - getting a bit mixed up here -well considering my age. have fun anyway!

 

:smt061 annie

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We engraved a massive champions league replica cup today.

 

It was 26" high, weighing 5.5 kilos and it had a diameter of 250mm.

 

We just about fitted it on our IS400 volume and it came out great 8)

 

The point being get yourself an IS400 TITS :wink:

 

Customers bringing more in the morning so I'll post pics

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I need a 400vol. I want a 400Vol, I/we just dont have the work for it yet !

We engrave every day but only a few thing a day, we had hoped to be doing more but its just slow to pick up :x

Right now our is200tx is paying its way but only just !

every day we pick up a new customer but still have not sank our teeth into any big fish yet, But we still have our rod and line out waiting for him to swim bye 8)

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John heres a thought.....

on cups that are large ie. over 200mm diameter there isnt that much of a curve on them so you could set them up on the flat bed and engrave them "normally". (this would only apply for names and years being added)

if you need to put a curve on it you can.

carry on!

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John heres a thought.....

on cups that are large ie. over 200mm diameter there isnt that much of a curve on them so you could set them up on the flat bed and engrave them "normally". (this would only apply for names and years being added)

if you need to put a curve on it you can.

carry on!

 

How the hell could you do that on an is200tx hibs. as soon as the stylus starts going around the curve your stuffed. And how would you hold it anyway.

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I often get cups that are 8/9/10" in diameter.

We cone them up as best you can on the cylinder then engrave them on the flat.

As long as you have clearance on the cup for your diamond, whats the problem.

400mm Im trying to address that one.

carry on!

 

Or you could lamp it on a DN76 and blake it on......

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :lol:

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I often get cups that are 8/9/10" in diameter.

We cone them up as best you can on the cylinder then engrave them on the flat.

As long as you have clearance on the cup for your diamond, whats the problem.

400mm Im trying to address that one.

carry on!

 

Ain't the way to go though is it. the end product wouldn't be very good.

 

a right carry on.

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