jimbo1943 Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 Had a very nasty accident on Thursday. I was trimming a heel on the trimmer when the arm of my jumper caught on the breaster and wraped it around the shaft which resulted in my hitting my head very hard on the machine. I had a hugh lump just above my right eyebrow. I now have one very black eye. Thankfully I was not knocked out and was able to switch machine off. Anyone had an experience like this. Will now wear a shop coat and nothing loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercoulson Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 this does happen when people wear loose jumpers. the classic is getting a sleeve caught in a groover and pulling your arm in therefore grooving along it. the other thing you shouldnt do is sharpen shears or blades on your finisher as one fingerless repairer would now tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x minit uk Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Same thing happened to me a few years ago, I never banged my head but I did burn my arm. Baggy Jumpers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 the other thing you shouldnt do is sharpen shears or blades on your finisher as one fingerless repairer would now tell you. And one with a scar from wrist to elbow. Also got the back of my jumper caught on the Keg, wearing an apron does not protect your back, though I have seen some with guards on. What machine was it Jimbo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Iain Cheall Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 I was talking to a guy this week who has had 3 months off work after severing his hand with a 9" angle grinder. He apparently was using the grinder to cut some steel without the guard and it snagged spun round and took his hand off. Nice scar though for those people who like those things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Am92 Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 caught my jumper on the breastcone,took enough meat off for a sunday roast.only wear short sleeves now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Keith & Peter, are these accidents capable of happening on new machinery or are guards in place due to legislation? If not, is it possible to aleiviate these accidents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercoulson Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 there are guards in place but not to stop these kind of accidents as you would not be able to repair. as part of any risk assessment you would identify that the cutters etc are dangerous, ideally they would be completely enclosed but you would not be able to work then so then next best option is not to use unless properly trained and using the correct PPE. part of the risk assessment should also identify that loose clothing near turning shafts is a no no as are ties that are not held back. at some point you have to rely on some common sense but occasionally this goes awol......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 As the section of cutter used is just a fraction of the whole area could not the revolving turret type be enclosed so that just the bottom section is usable. Then if there was an instance of trimmer grab at the toe no fingers would be able to go round the trimmer!! dont supose it's that easy though Peter. What about the keg and the breaster , these could be recessed rather than protruding. A breaster at belly level that is in motion under a trimmer section is an accident just waiting to happen. I guess you just have to switch the shaft off while trimming. I think tomorrows machines are going to have to be designed with the insurers in mind not the repairers. I worked on a finisher many years ago that was almost totally enclosed but I cant remember what or where or when, but I know it was not British. I must count myself fortunate to have survived all these years without a major accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercoulson Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 do you mean the multi head type of trimmer? if so only the engaged trimmer should be turning anyway. if you mean the actual cutter then they are already guarded part way round leaving the front and lower part exposed. it is already possible to have a machine with sensors that trun the motors on when you put the shoe towards a section but then you have to weigh up cost against risk (getting into some thousands). many repairers go without accidents throughout their life, if everyone had accidents then i'm sure the elf gestapo would have outlawed shoe repairing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Well done Peter, I concur with all that you have said. Again I don't work Sundays Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 I caught my nice new brand new jumper on my machine a few years ago. Sucked me in, bend a shaft smashed a bearing and broke my wrist! was cast up to my arm pit and now have a nice "cobblers" scar. Finisher are bloody dangerous when they bite. But I only had half a day of work whilst I got my arm seen to...... time of for injury = employee not employer! Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo1943 Posted March 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Update since Thursday. One very black eye. Such a headache for 3 days. Will now wear a shop coat. No more loose jumpers. Reading some of the other threads I got of lightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x minit uk Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Update since Thursday. One very black eye. Such a headache for 3 days.Will now wear a shop coat. No more loose jumpers. Reading some of the other threads I got of lightly. Thanks for keeping us A BREAST of things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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