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indeed we have adler and can get parts no problem although we stock little. singer are available and we have a supplier in the know when getting parts, he has had a lot of trouble with quality but makes sure they get checked before sending out.

 

the other make of patcher freely available is Claes (Textima)

 

the one thing in common with all these machines though is spare parts prices - hard to see where the value is!! shouldn't be saying that should i?

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indeed we have adler and can get parts no problem although we stock little. singer are available and we have a supplier in the know when getting parts, he has had a lot of trouble with quality but makes sure they get checked before sending out.

 

the other make of patcher freely available is Claes (Textima)

 

Very diplomatic Peter, you should have been a polititian.

"Claes" is that not the Welsh machine?

Seem to remember trialling one of these many years ago in the form of a Slovakian format, could not get on with it for some reason but cant remember why.

By saying that this machine is freely available do you mean that I could have one tomorrow along with any spare parts tomorrow, or are you saying yes we can get one but will have to order it and the same for any parts.

 

Who is using this machine in numbers significant enough to send the message out that it is a good machine capable of doing all our daily requirements.

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Well

 

CLAES (Textima) on delux base and with electric motor is approx £3700.00 +VAT

 

as for Adler the last time we checked (approx 1 year ago) they were approx £4000.00 + VAT Head only - base approx £ 500.00 extra

 

Singer we will not quote for the reasons you already say - consistancy and reliability.

 

refurbs when available in all models are approx £1450.00 +VAT with motor and basic stand

 

the difference between new and refurb may seem great but it is worth it if you use regularly - spread the difference over the life of the machine and it is not so great. Refurbs always come with warranty but in the long run they are used and worn, ideal if you do not use much but cannot get by without.

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Wow, thanks for that Peter.

 

So we are looking towards £4.500.00 for a patcher inc VAT.

Four and a half grand.

£4 1/2k

 

OK you guys out there who are still charging £1 or other stupud prices for stitching and patching, including donating it to Charity, maybe you now see the logic in getting a price consistent with effort and machinery replacement costs.

 

Forget about how you only paid £60 off billy bloggs for your present Patcher, think now how much it would cost for a new one.

 

In comparison would you charge £5 for a leather half sole job because you only paid £100 for an old finisher?

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that's a bollocks of an analogy hugh lol.

and the same thing i say to my customers when they expect me to charge next to nowt :lol:

and there's nowt wrong with donating to charity [-X i and my brother always try to do something for different charities a couple of times a year, including running races in all sorts of silly weather. we don't see any harm to our business in letting our chosen charity benefit from it in some way.

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Nowt wrong in giving to Charity, please donate as much as you can to Help the Aged. (so I can benefit).

Nowt wrong in Punching holes in Belts for free.

 

But take serious note of this,

In a few years time at least half your repair customers will have vanished.

This leaves you with a dilema, how can I replace that missing turnover.

Your quantity will be the Remedial work that you are now doing for Peanuts or giving it away to good causes because you can afford to.

Customers who are used to paying with Peanuts will react when asked to pay with Brazil nuts.

 

If you feel so strongly about the donations you can always give out of your own pocket.

 

Too many are terrified of charging a decent price then wonder why they dont have the reserve Capital to get machinery replaced or fixed to a decent standard. The customer on the other hand is very grateful for your generosity.

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I have a simple pricing strategy when it comes to stitiching at patching...

 

Base charge for an average job which is likely to take less than 5 minutes £4.95. Any thing above that and it's £25 per hour + materials. After all the majority of patching work is simply time and a bit of glue and tread. But the rent on my shop etc isn't free and if i have to spend 30 mins stitching up the remains of something then I still need to cover the cost of that 30 minutes in overheads.

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....interesting post this !

 

In my opinion, it is always worht investing in the RIGHT machine for the job. How many of you use a blunt knife coz it was cheaper? You can't do a proper job without the right tools. The amount of times I've seen repairers struggling to do a zip in a boot with a patcher that wouldn't stitch a strap on!!

 

As Peter said, the reliability of Singer parts is unreliable and Adler or Textima are a far better option, imo. We of course offer both at very competetive prices, new and recon, on or off stands.

 

So for gods sake, start charging proper money for a proper job!! The days of doing stitching for £1.50 have long gone. Well done 'Andy'

 

Keith

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the truth of the charging matter is....................take a good look at what the job entails........................................tell the customer the price, there not happy......barter............................a little...................but use common sense..especially dealing with certain customers from certain cultures....................................u no what i mean......................being very diplomatic...................................... :oops:

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