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you won't like this but linen thread is now in serious short supply, i believe the supplier/manufacturers have either closed or moved production to distant lands and support for this thread has been more or less withdrawn. assuming you want thread in balls or tapered cone type then i think a brick wall is looming unless someone knows otherwise........................... we can still get linen thread pre waxed and non waxed but only on normal straight type cops normal and reverse but do not stock much as it is in low demand

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no, nearly everyone is now stitching with nylon braided thread but victors in particular sometimes need a little tweek with the lock to accept running with it. whereas linen thread is measured by numbers of cords - 6 cord or 7cord etc that are twisted to make a nice round cross section. nylon is not because it is braided and has an oval cross section giving the appearance of being flat. a side effect of this is locking systems need to be adjusted as they are now trying to lock flatter thread which is ok on most machines where the tension can be turned up to allow for this. the victor from memory has little in the way of tension adjustment apart from the stripper mechanism on front of the wax pot which is used to round thread not flat so usually the lock has to be tweaked to correct this. having said this there are great advantages to nylon thread, it is much much stronger and has a coating which means no more messy wax.

 

As an aside and because of the threads construction i also use it to indicate problems with machines as it reacts in different ways depending on the problem so we can help repairers over the phone by asking questions about what is happening to the thread.

 

anyway, hope this helps

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yes, so long as you thread it the same way - do you know how to adjust the lock? it is on the right hand side near the hand wheel and is seen as a little arm with a square headed nut locking it, loosen the nut and the arm will move. if the thread stays proud in the groove - not pulling down far enough - you need more lock (likely) then adjust this arm either way and see if imporves or gets worse, if worse then move arm opposite way a bit at a time until right. once adjusted correctly the thread should pull through fairly easily in the free position and lock nicely as you go along. this is not always 100% accurate as lock can be worn, hopefully this is not the case

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We have been using an m8 nylon bonded thread by robinsons i think, I'll check tomorrow. it is woven/ twisted like linen. We use either black or dk mahogony on the welt side and a white on the sole. Seems to work excellent with little adjustment in a pederson welt. We find we have to be careful winding bobbins though as it seems to unwind on the bobbin throw if we wind it the wrong way. We also find we only need a very diluted stitch lube as it seems to feed much easier than the linen.

 

cheers

brett

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As Peter mentioned earlier, you can use nylon thread (Geneva) on your Victor. However, whilst you can adjust the thread lock, it doesn't always work, especially if there's excessive wear on the lock mechanism of the machine. therefore, it works opn some machines and not on others!

 

Barbour still offer a thread, but it's not as good as it used to be and getting hold of it can be a problem!!

 

Keith

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I've just ordered Linen Thread for my Goodyear stitcher from Birch. The rep reckons that Coates have taken up manufacturing linen thread for our machines.Apparently it's in black. I'll reserve judgement until I get my mucky mitts on it though. Should be here Friday

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That sounds about right.

What happens when the Ink washes off in the rain as most of these threads are waxed or polyester. does the customer walk around with white stitches showing or do they return them for re-inking?

 

Good trade for Inks then eh?

 

Been doing so now for 30 years and never seen it wear off, and yes I do get lots of return trade. :D

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That sounds about right.

What happens when the Ink washes off in the rain as most of these threads are waxed or polyester. does the customer walk around with white stitches showing or do they return them for re-inking?

 

Good trade for Inks then eh?

 

Been doing so now for 30 years and never seen it wear off, and yes I do get lots of return trade. :D

 

I was not under the impression that you had been an Independant for 30 years?

Had you not used to work for Multiples?

Did they allow you to use White thread on the Welts?

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