keyman01260 Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 Cut this blade , looks good but not working. Any one point out where I’m going wrong ? TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 Looks like cuts are MPSPPR. Probably alignment issue due to broken blade. Try filing shoulders back slightly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyman01260 Posted February 3 Author Report Share Posted February 3 Ok but cut key from an unbroken blade , but always awkward to line up with deep cut by shoulder !! thanks for input anyway !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 These can be tricky to line up straight when you have a deep cut, i use the Unocode to cut them most times when i have any issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 (edited) Hi, I've rotated the overall image (to make the new key horizontal), then rotated one part of the image relative to the rest (to make the original key horizontal), outlined the new key and pasted the red line onto the original key, it can be seen that the copy is larger than the original key. Edited February 3 by Trev keyman01260 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyman01260 Posted February 3 Author Report Share Posted February 3 Thanks for that trev, will run it through again !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 Better to get the Mitutoyo calipers out grahamparker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lock&quay Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 I use the edge kit on the Viper for these it works it all out .Or the C jaw on my Silca Bravo . I don't understand why I see these Silca Vipers going so cheap ,They are great machines . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapidlocks Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 viper is a proper work horse , but its value has dropped for a number of reasons preventing people from wanting one 1) its size and weight 2) its now limited coverage on a number of new keyways like hu162 as a for instance 3) the fact that its probably going to be hard to get parts in the future for it 4) the emergence of cheap china machines aimed at the new starts face it the average auto set up just setting up wants maximum coverage so will look at the machines that give the most coverage , most these days dont look at the mainstream machines when setting up , with uk suppliers and resellers online pushing the latest cheap china machines promising the earth , the additional coverage the add ons of key reading software to save them learning their trade and all at a fraction of the price , its easy to say why china has dominence , especially with the new starts , scammers and messers. my viper has given 18 years of service , still working daily , never missed a beat despite being on van , has cut nearly 250k keys, and will still be working hard long after the new breed of futura , ninja and chinese offerings die and need replacing . superb investment and built to last. so cheap now because of its limitations on coverage , the future parts being obtainable and of course the very cheap machines available now with more overall coverage , shame as one of best machines built for car keys. lock&quay and kobblers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapidlocks Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 the blade you are using listed VA3l i used to have issues with as 0.2mm to 0.3mm wider than the ne72/NE73 blade , so can leave too much meat on the key , calipers or verniers will confirm keyman01260 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyman01260 Posted February 5 Author Report Share Posted February 5 Can anybody read the bitting so I can get one cut to code ??? TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 On 2/3/2023 at 2:47 PM, grahamparker said: Looks like cuts are MPSPPR. Probably alignment issue due to broken blade. Try filing shoulders back slightly. Already done for you !!!. keyman01260 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyman01260 Posted February 5 Author Report Share Posted February 5 Sorry not an expert on this side of things , thought it would be numbers lol . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapidlocks Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 no its letter MNPRS , some miracle machines need you to enter numbers in which case S = 1 R = 2 P = 3 N = 4 M = 5 but most machines want you to enter MNPRS values as per manufacturer codes keyman01260 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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