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Often been offered the locks for this type of key at my local cash and carry. dirt cheap locks, low quality and I believe needs abloy? machine to cut keys never though this was viable as new locks of this type of chinese *&*P  rrp prob a couple of quid with 3 keys. and then of course you have to find the blanks.

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Super dirt cheap and low quality locks from China as usual. Just measure the key profile dimensions and find something that will fit in the keyhole. The tolerances are going to be dogshit anyway.

I've been abroad to the middle east for the past year and one major thing I realised about these areas is that locksmith businesses are quite rare, and the sections are the ultra common cheap dimple and pin tumbler variations, and these disc detainer locks are always on padlocks. The mentality here is that nobody cares about having extra keys cut, locks are usually sold with 5 keys which is more than enough for more people. Some packages of keys/locks are even just lazily keyed alike and it's not even meant to be a feature, nothing is coded, and it's not advertised to be that way. Instead of going through the trouble of finding a capable locksmith and getting extra keys cut, people just buy new locks entirely because they are so cheap.

I made a few contacts, people who get their own "branded" cylinders from Chinese megamarts who pump these out like crazy. All they have is a WhatsApp phone number to someone in China, not even a company/factory address because there isn't one, they change names and addresses all the time and get passed around from distribution to distribution where ultimately they're untraceable. If the "owner" of a "branded" cylinder wanted the specifications changed, they just send a message and it gets changed in less than 24 hours hence why most of the time you won't find named specifications on Silca or InstaCode.

So, for the most part, there will not be a dedicated JMA/Silca/etc. suitor for these. The best you can do is just find a similar size key and use that.

 

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We use Silca AB38P or JMA equivalent. We cut using Silca Delta machine with multicopy jaw. Cut first side fully make sure you go all the way from left to right within the jaw. Then file down the excess material at the end and towards the head or use finishing machine if you have one. Flip over and cut second side. We have been cutting these for many years and never get any back as they are not that accurate. Just keep a sharp cutter handy as it speeds up the job. The JMA blanks are softer and easier to work with so I would advise them. Buy a lock from EBay or Amazon and try they are great money earners. We charge £10.50 per key and no one else locally will touch them.

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On 8/13/2022 at 2:46 PM, kirkybob said:

Often been offered the locks for this type of key at my local cash and carry. dirt cheap locks, low quality and I believe needs abloy? machine to cut keys never though this was viable as new locks of this type of chinese *&*P  rrp prob a couple of quid with 3 keys. and then of course you have to find the blanks.

Bob

 

 

On 8/13/2022 at 2:55 PM, nxasdf said:

Super dirt cheap and low quality locks from China as usual. Just measure the key profile dimensions and find something that will fit in the keyhole. The tolerances are going to be dogshit anyway.

I've been abroad to the middle east for the past year and one major thing I realised about these areas is that locksmith businesses are quite rare, and the sections are the ultra common cheap dimple and pin tumbler variations, and these disc detainer locks are always on padlocks. The mentality here is that nobody cares about having extra keys cut, locks are usually sold with 5 keys which is more than enough for more people. Some packages of keys/locks are even just lazily keyed alike and it's not even meant to be a feature, nothing is coded, and it's not advertised to be that way. Instead of going through the trouble of finding a capable locksmith and getting extra keys cut, people just buy new locks entirely because they are so cheap.

I made a few contacts, people who get their own "branded" cylinders from Chinese megamarts who pump these out like crazy. All they have is a WhatsApp phone number to someone in China, not even a company/factory address because there isn't one, they change names and addresses all the time and get passed around from distribution to distribution where ultimately they're untraceable. If the "owner" of a "branded" cylinder wanted the specifications changed, they just send a message and it gets changed in less than 24 hours hence why most of the time you won't find named specifications on Silca or InstaCode.

So, for the most part, there will not be a dedicated JMA/Silca/etc. suitor for these. The best you can do is just find a similar size key and use that.

 

Fab info.Cheers.

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On 8/13/2022 at 4:00 PM, grahamparker said:

We use Silca AB38P or JMA equivalent. We cut using Silca Delta machine with multicopy jaw. Cut first side fully make sure you go all the way from left to right within the jaw. Then file down the excess material at the end and towards the head or use finishing machine if you have one. Flip over and cut second side. We have been cutting these for many years and never get any back as they are not that accurate. Just keep a sharp cutter handy as it speeds up the job. The JMA blanks are softer and easier to work with so I would advise them. Buy a lock from EBay or Amazon and try they are great money earners. We charge £10.50 per key and no one else locally will touch them.

I get these in every week and can't do them. Very frustrating.

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