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Hi Guys.  I have an 884 from you and have a tech question. I need to do a Vauxhall Vivaro Van and know its Renault based with a Philips Crypto PH20 transponder. I know the 2nd step procedure is different on Renault cars, would it be the same alternate swap original/TK100 with the Vivaro or just the 3 turns as per any other car/van?

Also would it be Original first then Copy key or Copy Key first then original IF it's the Renault procedure?

 Cheers in advance.

 Martin 

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Hi this topic here should help with all 884 and 884 mini questions / problems 

 

 

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ALWAYS 100% use the " Original " key and hold the Chip or Head next to the key then you should never block the car as the car will always see the original key as well . 

 

this is the easiest and safest way to sniff data 

 

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4 minutes ago, Technical Tony / Davenport said:

ALWAYS 100% use the " Original " key and hold the Chip or Head next to the key then you should never block the car as the car will always see the original key as well . 

 

this is the easiest and safest way to sniff data 

 

image.png

 

Regards Tony 

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Email: twilkin@davenport-burgess.com                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             

DAVENPORT BURGESS, 47 Wednesfield Road, Willenhall, West Midlands, WV13 1AL                                                                                    

t:   01902 366448                                    f:   01902 602472   

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Thanks Tony but do you know if the Vauxhall Vivaro requires the Renault procedure or just the normal 3 turn step 2 procedure??

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Too right. Years ago I did a VW Caddy using KL884. Thought, "That's weird, it's a Renault blank, oh well", without it dawning on me about Renault procedure (and rebadged vehicles), on I blundered. After a block, then battery disconnect and much embarrassment it was sorted.
Needless to say, nowadays if it looks like a Renault key it gets treated like a Renault so no more blocks.
BTW, it's copy first, then original, then copy, then original, then copy.

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Bearing in mind it was a few years ago (fading memory and all that) but it was a small van, so I'm assuming it was a Caddy, which I've since learned is a rebadged Renault Kangoo.
What is certain is the van was a VW and the key I was presented with had an NE38-style blade.

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This has only confused me further. Sounds like a rare beast.

9 hours ago, keyman said:

Bearing in mind it was a few years ago (fading memory and all that) but it was a small van, so I'm assuming it was a Caddy, which I've since learned is a rebadged Renault Kangoo.
What is certain is the van was a VW and the key I was presented with had an NE38-style blade.

 

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On 8/9/2021 at 11:00 AM, rapidlocks said:

mercedes citan used VA2 blade.

very early caddy models did have hu49 key on them possibly thinking of this one

You may very well have something there with the HU49 suggestion. Could have sworn it was an NE38, but it was approximately 8-9 years ago, it was certainly an edge-cut key.
I almost feel better knowing I had no clue it was a rebadged Renault until after I looked for the reason I experienced a Renault-style block and I looked into the van's pedigree. 
Apologies to all for the confusion.

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