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35 minutes ago, hakeemz said:

inventor part belongs to scotland:-) just saying

Why? Being an innovative society isn't exclusive to just the Scottish.....

https://interestingengineering.com/45-of-the-greatest-british-inventions-of-all-time

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_inventions_and_discoveries

The above proves just how powerful and influential we are and have always been as a union.

Rick.

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4 hours ago, kobblers said:

Why? Being an innovative society isn't exclusive to just the Scottish.....

Cmon, just give us this one, we don't have much else going for us

 

4 hours ago, jacko said:

I will state now that I will disagree with the result of the general election

This is already our third election in four years... 

 

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the union of the crowns came about because England was bankrupt

too many wars and infighting brought king James to a union of both kingdoms Britannia flourished

with sterling being a world currency    then Scotland got shafted !!!  3 centuries later we strike oil

we got the Barnett formula?? England got the oil  revenues  i should say west minster got it

so go learn some history of our great island an see why independence is so strong in Scotland

its not because of us the people(UK) its because of them     the  MPs , prime ministers, pole tax

the waste of oil revenue which in any other country has made them extremely wealthy  and ofcourse

the loss of the industrial stable  nation look at London our capital  greed murder stabbing robbery all

the wrong capitals for this city we need structure not destruction or we will divide 

we have to look inward at ourselves before we implode

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12 hours ago, da miller said:

the union of the crowns came about because England was bankrupt

too many wars and infighting brought king James to a union of both kingdoms Britannia flourished

with sterling being a world currency    then Scotland got shafted !!!  3 centuries later we strike oil

we got the Barnett formula?? England got the oil  revenues  i should say west minster got it

so go learn some history of our great island an see why independence is so strong in Scotland

its not because of us the people(UK) its because of them     the  MPs , prime ministers, pole tax

the waste of oil revenue which in any other country has made them extremely wealthy  and ofcourse

the loss of the industrial stable  nation look at London our capital  greed murder stabbing robbery all

the wrong capitals for this city we need structure not destruction or we will divide 

we have to look inward at ourselves before we implode

Speaking as a Scot I appreciate the £1250.00 per year per person more we get from the British treasury than any other part of the 

UK. Thankfully this Conservative Government has been financing the SNP's 12 billion per year financial black hole caused by it's 

incompetence.

I saw Scottish industrial manufacturing go down the drain in the 60's all due to the trade unions running wild with the blessing of the 

labour party which now wants to re-nationalise. Oh well back to no post and candles at night. 

Regarding independence only Glasgow voted for, due to the influence of the Glasgow Irish, the remainder of Scotland voted NO. 

Also thanks to the Sturgeon Mafia we are the highest taxed part of the UK.

 

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shes a politician , none of them could even lie straight in bed . the irony is that 99% of politicians regardless of their party colour will lie to get the vote , they will still serve their own interests way before doing anything for the common voter , sadly you cant trust a single one of them , anyone who does is deluded , its a rigged system in their favour.

i do believe that england , scotland , wales and NI are stronger together than they could ever be broken up , its easy to want a break and be independent , not so easy in practice and not one would be stronger or better off being independent in my opinion, but if one or more want to break away then thats their choice if they vote for this , unless they dont like the vote outcome and continue to vote until the outcome the politicians want succeeds , sounds familiar.

i have to admit to being totally bored with politics , no matter whats voted for these liars and thieves we elect will still screw us over , what we need is honest politicians and honest transparent politics , but theres absolutely no one standing in these elections that practice honesty and transparency , the only sure and for certain outcome is we get screwed over again .

 

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Just reading all these comments makes me laugh

English scottish bla bla bla

Will make not one bit of difference what or who you vote for

Your tax will always go up

your bills will always go up

You will always get shafted for having a business in the uk

So whatever decision you make its already decided and there is no such thing as democracy

Police and armys are there to protect the wealth from the mob (this why they were formed in the first place)

It will always be them and us

 

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as i said , with the absence of any honest politicians practicing honest transparent politics , you will get shafted . 

politicians lie , cheat , fiddle and screw up with impunity and no accountability other than to themselves , so all the time the country is run by them , normal people get shafted thats the way it works.

so independence sounds nice , but the reality is , instead of being shafted by london , you get shafted by a scottish politician , the outcome is the same , you still get shafted , if your preference is to be shafted by a countryman then fair play .

its much same with brexit , leavers just prefer to get shafted by british politicians than by european ones , leave or stay we are still going to get shafted.

the only thing i disagree with is business owners get shafted , only small and medium businesses get shafted , if you are one of the big boys you can avoid tax and be one of the shafters rather than the shafted .

the systems designed to keep us down and keep the wealth where they desire it kept.

oh for honest politicians , transparency and honesty in government , oh for the ideal world , which this is not and never will be no matter whether independent , part of a union or part of europe or any other alliance , the end result is the same .

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35 minutes ago, hibsjo(SCO) said:

so how big a clown does lying bojo need to become before he isnt electable (hes past that point for a lot of people)

torys to rename their party as the lying party

its getting interesting 

carry on!

It's a good Job Corbyn, Blair and nearly all other politicians are not liars as well ........Hang on a mo.

THEY ARE ALL LIARS IN SOME FORM. Best thing about Boris is to my knowledge has never supported terrorists.

As for Wee Jimmy you can have your freedom for me and nearly every English person i have spoken to agree's. If Scotland want independence to then hand all power to Europe then fine get on with it. Let the English vote as well in a new referendum and you will get a massive landslide victory.

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i dont get the terrorist supporter bit with corbyn or am i being naive

all these pics of him with ira, palestinians or whoever means he has met them to discuss again whatever (like all PMs have done covertly)

the big picture is there is money in conflict and if you dont take the side of the oppressor its sympathising with terrorists

he,ll be in pics with hong kongians next and you wont like that either,  youve obviously never googled bojo with terrorists lol

anyway  ill let you all get back to reading your sun newspapers and await the flak :)

carry on!

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1 hour ago, hibsjo(SCO) said:

i dont get the terrorist supporter bit with corbyn or am i being naive

all these pics of him with ira, palestinians or whoever means he has met them to discuss again whatever (like all PMs have done covertly)

the big picture is there is money in conflict and if you dont take the side of the oppressor its sympathising with terrorists

he,ll be in pics with hong kongians next and you wont like that either,  youve obviously never googled bojo with terrorists lol

anyway  ill let you all get back to reading your sun newspapers and await the flak :)

carry on!

Corbyn still refuses to blame the IRA for any attack on CIVILIANS on the UK mainland. Is that not enough !!!.

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Meeting and showing public support to Jerry Adams during the 70's, is not the same as the prime minister meeting with Jerry Adams, after 1999, after the decommissioning of weapons, and agreed peace. It is not the same as the government and the IRA having behind the doors meetings, during the 70's and 80's,  to bring an end to conflict.

The man is a disgrace.

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my biggest concern is now the fudged brexit , i voted leave and would still do so if i could turn back the clock , though at present i think this will be an absolute disaster no matter the outcome of the election.

politicians have negotiated a terrible deal that leaves us at the whim of the eu , usa trade deal will be one sided .

our politicians have put us in a position of weakness , we have no bargaining leverage , in fact we have none at all , the upshot is we would go cap in hand to the americans or to the eu and take what we are given.

as good as leaving could have been , the incompetence of our parliment has left us up the stream without a paddle or a boat .

i cant blame the scotts for wanting to desert this sinking ship , i suspect many brits would like to do same

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photos of blair with saddam and gaddafi, cameron and thatcherites shouting slogans for mandela to be lynched(terrorist mandela according to tories)..

slelective memories..

photos of raegan, carter, bush senior , bush junior with bin laden, taliban, shia militias, merceneries in iraq, black water..list goes on

these are all politicians ..dont let them fool you

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Problem was when he said that he did not have a majority and other party's would have blocked any deal no matter how good it was.

Look how the speaker acted and how quickly it ended up in court.

Personally i hope there is a way he can know possibly bring back no deal to the table in a bid to get a much better deal or as i (and most people who i have spoken to) would prefer NO DEAL.

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