Broms Cobb Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 as title, Training courses, I sent one of my lads to Davenport Burgess and now Hickley's for training then started to wonder who else within this trade (trades) offer any courses? Yes we all train on the job but I feel one to one more in depth and make the person a lot more confident. So which companies offer any training? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinh Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 I know this is in the Key Section but SOMSR would be delighted to hear from anyone who can offer Shoe Repair Training courses. We do get enquiries but don't seem to have any providers available currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Sad state of affairs that Robin. It would seem that the only way you can get training is to commit a crime, get yourself locked up and have training in prison...............Just sayin (How are you BTW? grahamparker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobblers Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 If I had the time, I'd be more than willing to train people. Rick. CitySafe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 There are a few of us on here that would probably like to pass on our skills but can't afford to pay anyone. kobblers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 I'd offer training for a couple of days a week at my shop...... maybe a list of those that would be willing to do the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, robinh said: I know this is in the Key Section but SOMSR would be delighted to hear from anyone who can offer Shoe Repair Training courses. We do get enquiries but don't seem to have any providers available currently. How many enquiries do you get Robin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broms Cobb Posted December 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 39 minutes ago, robinh said: I know this is in the Key Section but SOMSR would be delighted to hear from anyone who can offer Shoe Repair Training courses. We do get enquiries but don't seem to have any providers available currently. Trade section?? Any how, not just keys i'd like to see all our services as in my shop we have 3 staff and a trainee but am trying 'to fid time' to do a more thorough training so losing the lad for a day occasionally is well worth it. and recommend it - Hickley's and Davenport Burgess are fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broms Cobb Posted December 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Broms Cobb said: Trade section?? Any how, not just keys i'd like to see all our services as in my shop we have 3 staff and a trainee but am trying 'to fid time' to do a more thorough training so losing the lad for a day occasionally is well worth it. and recommend it - Hickley's and Davenport Burgess are fantastic. oops just noticed it was moved lol kobblers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinh Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Hi Everybody. I'm doing fine here at the global HQ of the SOMSR organisation ( one day a week in Leeds and as much coffee as I can drink). Since I have been here I have had three enquiries from individuals (who would probably prefer not to go down the penal servitude route) to learn more about the trade. What seems to be the norm is that they are willing to pay for training and possibly also prepared to travel to get it. The going rate appears to be around 100 pounds per day. I'm not sure of the H&S and liability requirements but I will see what can find out. I would imagine that whoever gives the training would have to formulate a program and timetable to ensure that the trainee reaches their target efficiently and effectively. I know you can't train someone fully in the mysterious art of shoe repairing in a few simple steps so it might be that an introductory course over a couple of days with a follow up masterclass might be good. SteelCityShoes, Gray and kobblers 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 I would certaily be happy to look at providing machinery should shoe repairs become a viable training option Gray and SteelCityShoes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 I could possibly provide space as well SteelCityShoes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Your'e absolutely right Robin. You can't train someone in the art of shoe repairs in a few simple steps. I'm still learning new stuff after 40 odd years. Interested in your posts too Keith. I'm of retirement age now and own the premises I am in.... Ideal place for a training centre for a couple of trainees. Also Robin I think the SOMSR could come up with a training schedule. I would hate to see our skills lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broms Cobb Posted December 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Thing is, have SMSR ever done this? could be good - this trade needs some recognition for all our trades might just be the start of something good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Muppet Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Funny to think that the trade is being lost considering timpson having 10 times as many shops as 20 years ago. But you are actually 100% correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 I get customers that know I'm of retirement age begging me not to pack in because they don't want to use Timpsons or don't know where to get all the tricky done jobs that nobody else will tackle. kobblers and CitySafe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, Count Muppet said: Funny to think that the trade is being lost considering timpson having 10 times as many shops as 20 years ago. But you are actually 100% correct The trade is being lost because of Timpsons...... They turn all the skilled jobs away..... So then the punter thinks if Timpsons can't do them (Because they are so big) then no other repairer can, and that gives all of us a bad name when that is simply not true. kobblers and gavin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Muppet Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Gray said: The trade is being lost because of Timpsons...... They turn all the skilled jobs away..... So then the punter thinks if Timpsons can't do them no other repairer can, and that gives all of us a bad name when that is simply not true. That’s a very good reason to get to know your local timpson manager. They will send that stuff to you so they don’t have to do it. That’s when you can pinch the customer Broms Cobb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Depends on the manager Count. (Timpsons loyalty) There is nothing in it for them. Why would they send it to me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Muppet Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Haha. You’d be surprised how lazy some of them are. something that you would charge £20 for and probably earn £10-15 from would only be worth £3 bonus to them. some customers I would happily pay £3 to not have to see again, others I’d like the money and repeat custom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Oh I know how lazy and rude my one is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfman Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 there are a few independents that turn work away saying they can not be done also gray ,as with everything its not that they cant be done just they can not do them Gray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 I think we are the same Eric. I don’t turn anything away if I can help it. Had some men’s shoes in last week that another repairer told him to throw away . Rubber sole and heel and made some new leather tongues for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 5 hours ago, Gray said: The trade is being lost because of Timpsons...... They turn all the skilled jobs away Gray, you are absolutely correct 5 hours ago, Count Muppet said: That’s a very good reason to get to know your local timpson manager. They will send that stuff to you so they don’t have to do it. And a Timpson employee has just confirmed the situation with that statement. Plus all us old school skilled workforce will need to retire at some point in the future, Where will that leave the industry? Gray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathews Posted December 5, 2018 Report Share Posted December 5, 2018 This is exactly why my old man has always said he would like to pass the skills he's learnt and taught me onto another young man. So if anyone knows of a boy in SW London or can get there with ease who'd like to grasp at the opportunity to be trained by my Dad, the best skilled repairer out there (I am biased) with a job at the end of it please let us know. kobblers and HarryHeffernan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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