bonus27 Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 Hi all I just want to tell you all of an experience that has just happened to me. I have been in negotiations with a Morrisons Supermarket about having a concession space inside one of their stores for the last 3 months. To be told on Friday that Morrisons were withdrawing the unit to promote their own in-store merchandise. " Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. However, Morrisons have just informed me that they are going to take the unit for their own use. " Shit i thought , I've been getting stock , counters , equipment together now for the last 3 months i was even going to collect a finisher , press , band scourer and outsoler next week. But not to worry there was another empty unit directly opposite the one i was after in the same Morrisons Store. So i asked the question , and yes it was available , but to only be told later in the day that . The unit is available but it cannot be used for shoe repairs . So it looks Like a certain National company in shoe repairs has put the block on this The thing is I don't understand how they found out. So, what's the moral of the story? If you want that new shop , lie through your f****ng teeth to everyone! till you get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCityShoes Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 Did you have a contract or a written agreement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonus27 Posted December 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 No, we were negotiating heads of terms , so nothing signed. I am not after any recourse , iI want to make fellow shoe repairers aware of the power that a certain national chain has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Muppet Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 I would have thought that it's Morrisons policy to not allow another shoe repairers in anyway. If they have a partnership with Timpson to provide the services within their stores it seems unlikely that they would let anyone else do it. Probably more along the lines of the manager being happy to have you in but once they contacted their head office, they put a stop to it. It's a shame though because they had a chance to have someone decent in but now will have to wait for a timpson trainee to run the shop. Dean and kobblers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrokenThreader Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 the same could be said about sainsburys and tesco as i belive the big T has deals in place with these too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonus27 Posted December 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Morrisons head office new about my proposal because heads of terms were amended by them several times. And i asked the question "would there be any objection to a shoe repairers opening " to which they said no, way back in March this year. The unit was then occupied by someone else ,but i knew they were leaving. I also enquired at Asda their response was that they have a working relationship with the Big T, which is something the don't want to jeopardize . So that's the big four supermarkets sewn up then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike at Vauxhall Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Large company shits on small company. I guess they would just say, " nothing personal, it's just business!" Lee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom D Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 sad thing is big supermarkets prefer a well known name, sometimes I think I'm back in the 80s trumps just like regan , cobins like Michael foot and jonny timpsons turning into mister minit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Who owns the Shoecare brand these days? I understood it was C.B. but things appear to have changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Muppet Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Don't know about the brand name, but timpson own the shops now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonus27 Posted December 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Yes that correct, is it 1600 shops and counting . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Muppet Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Sadly yes it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 So why is Shoecare so prominent on the S.O.M.S.R. website, "the society for the independent shoe repairer"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Muppet Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Deal was only done within the last 3 months I think. Probably haven't changed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broms Cobb Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 quote - I have been in negotiations with a Morrisons Supermarket about having a concession space inside one of their stores for the last 3 months. To be told on Friday that Morrisons were withdrawing the unit to promote their own in-store merchandise. I know of a guy who was about to sign a lease on a shop in Solihull, two doors away from the T brand, the day before signing had a call T had bought the shop Freehold and blocked him opening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCityShoes Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Nothing wrong with a bit of competition, if anything it makes us all better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simes Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Interesting? About 7 years ago I enquired about an empty unit in Morrison's. I didn't take it very far and then opened a "mobile unit" in a nearby retail park. Within 6 months Timpson's who had previously vacated Morrison's some years early opened again. It's almost like Morrison's had informed them I had been sniffing around. Not that it has had any noticeable impact on my business. It may have just been coincidence anyway. kobblers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonus27 Posted December 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) Heard about this one , the story that goes something like this Ex-big "T" Employee opens up next to or over the road from the Big "T" branch that he was working in So the powers that be in the big "T" bought the building where he was trading from , increased the rent ,service charge so he could no longer afford to stay. closed him down. Now I dont know how true this is but I have heard it from a couple of sources Edited December 5, 2016 by StevenB Removed name of location mentioned in post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Dymchurch Cobbler Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Timpsons own the Shoecare and the brand I know this as I was one of Shoecare's Area Managers before Timpson took them over they will be rebranding all of the Shoecare shops. Timpsons have taken over the dry cleaning in all the Morrison's so that is prob why they changed their minds about other shoe repairers renting units Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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