k4mrc Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 contuary to media news items - i know of a shoe repairer not doing so well, and in respect - i cant say his name or whereabouts, so dont ask! but when i was with him not long ago we talked about repairs and even though he was 'busier than normal' was sruggling with the bills. looking at his stock i saw he was using CUT top pieces, not sheeting as i use, we talked about price - his cut heels were costing for 30 pairs more than i pay for a sheet and with the sheet i cut loads more!- now the arguments come at this point,, wear, grip, etc; the material is usually the same, there are many to choose from, if you have a fixation for 'high' quality then but one of the top end materials - BUT buy a sheet and cut your own!! your throwing away good money if using cut top pieces! and i honestly can say any repairer using 'cut' top pieces is throwing good money away - but if your struggling with high rent/rates 1st try and keep your overheads as low as possible, dont listen to that nice sales rep - he wants a bonus - you need to get your own bonus - cut your own! if you buy 10 sheets at a time they reduce the price even further - so it will keep you all afloat after your next rent review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Which sheet material do you use and what sort of prices and sizes. Must admit I'm a pre-cut toppiece user . Thought you get too much wastage with sheeting but if you're careful I suppose you can use 99% of a sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Bring back Keel heels and Topy vulkotop sheeting, loadsa money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stutheshoe Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 i use topy strong cut into two and a half inch strips saves loads and we get a good discount if we order ten or more aswell . i do the same with toe peices order a sheet of resin and cut my own when i need them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 I've never given it any thought! you mean I could be saving money! How many pairs do you typically get from a sheet? what sheeting do you recommend? "roughly" what are the savings? I've always been aware of sheeting for top pieces but its never crossed my mind to actually buy it! enlighten me a little more! Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny King Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 MMMM Me too never buy sheeting for top peices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x minit uk Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 I use a mixture of the two, nylon mini sheets for the smaller heels, and super nitrile for 2/12 and over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Too true Martin we use contessa sheeting and have a vibram back up would never buy cut heels again! I cut strips to the size required on my ranger and have done so for the past 8 years, wastage is next to nothing. carry on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobblers Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 We buy sheeting and we worked it out at about 30% cheaper I have a large steel ruler and now and again i get a sheet and mark out widths of what i'm running short of, deeply score it with a stanley knife, bend it at the score then cut through it fully, a doddle to do. Buy sheeting, saves loadsa dosh We get hardly any wastage as we attach the heel to the strip then cut around it, we found if you cut the toppiece out first then you tend to overestimate it and then wastage begins. Rick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Dude Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 for years i bought sheets of topy strong, cut into various widths on a ranger then cut to size with shears... problem was that after a while i developed a RSI in my right arm with the constant snipping the lengths to size. i changed over to cut heels and for the past 10 years or more have been using them, now i've gone back to sheeting for a while in order try make a bit extra profit while the going is good... RSI took 2 years to get completely better.... but i'm not too worried about the RSI coming back as we aren't doing anything like amount of the big flat 2.25 or 2.5" ladies heels we used to because the vast proportion of the work is the good old stiletto \:D/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofatbyfar Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 so you are saving 10 pence a pair, whoopee doo, personaly i could not be arsed to cut out every pair of heels, on those busy days you would be wasting time doing it, time is money,, i know someone will say look after the pennies and all that tosh, but cutting out just to save a few pence is not for me, so there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 What about the saving of 8-10 different size packets of heels on your shelf? It's much easier to store sheeting It doesn't take long at all to cut most materials if you have a ranger to hand First cut in strips, then into top pieces, takes seconds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefwiggum Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 saving 10p per pair doesn't sound alot BUT work it out for the year then you see your saving if using topsheet saved you £20 per week thats over £1000 per year profit all for only alittle bit of extra work!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k4mrc Posted February 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 by toofatbyfar » Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:30 am so you are saving 10 pence a pair, whoopee doo, personaly i could not be arsed to cut out every pair of heels, on those busy days you would be wasting time doing it, time is money,, i know someone will say look after the pennies and all that tosh, but cutting out just to save a few pence is not for me, so there if thats what your happy with i agree 100% but - if ever your trade starts to drop drastically think again! or for the price of a ranger (which i dont know) you would find your business with so much more profit you could invest in perhaps a laser engraving machine with the money you might save over the next three years! but then thats the real serious side, i wonder do Timpson cut there own? at there warehouse, then ship them tl the shops? wow they would save a fortune! i do know that if you have cut top pieces and have staff the security thing is easier to control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Thats a holiday Ah, but then you wouldn't have enough time to take it coz you were too busy cutting up sheeting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofatbyfar Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 just out of interest, does anyone cut out there own leather soles,,,i used to have to do this 25 years ago when i worked in germany,, that was a bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 I believe that those presses (the individual machines) are now obsolete as 'elf and safety don't like them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofatbyfar Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 I believe that those presses (the individual machines) are now obsolete as 'elf and safety don't like them non non non,,, cut them out with shears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k4mrc Posted February 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 i konkur.,., by keithm » Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:55 pm Thats a holiday Ah, but then thats what i am doing wrong, no holidays... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Topy Strong, aint much cop........... worst product they do IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Spreads a little but wears very well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Spreads a little but wears very well Spreads a little, and doesn't wear that well keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Dude Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Spreads a little but wears very well Spreads a little, and doesn't wear that well keith compared to what in your opinion planet....?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 compared to what in your opinion planet....?? I didn't compare it to anything, I just said it doesn't wear well !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobblers Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Glad you mentioned that planet, i've seen them advertised before and have ofeten pondered buying them. Rick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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