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£70-80 for the Ford red master key system (that doesn't have the master key) and same price for the texas crypto maybe be a tad more

 

personally i would have spent my money on the Silca fast copy as they

have cracked Philips crypto which will come as a free upgrade

 

i have used the trs 5000 and found it not to be reliable meaning the information it displays on the screen

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I have recently bought one of these as well, I charge £25 for the normal fixed code and £35 for the ford red top ones. I have also bought the cloner which adds on to it but have not yet needed it.

All in all it seems a good bit of kit, and sks are very helpful if you need any advice or tips.

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Guest Keyman

I Agree Danny, you guys undervalue your service. Any fixed coded key should be a minimum of £45 and Crypto keys £60++++

 

Remember the Dealer would charge a fortune for these keys, My Nissan dealer charges £75+vat just for programming!!!

 

Theres good profit to be had from these keys, dont waste the opportunity!!

 

:D

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you guys at 20/30 pounds are only devaluing your own trade, i charge £60. for this type of key , the dealers are alot more expensive than me , you loose your car for a day usually,you cant get it done while you wait ,

So where is the competition ? is it another trader like your self?

Once you enter into this side of key programming, the technology moves forward all the time, at £60 a key, i am factoring into the price to buy the next machine that will be needed, quicker than you think!!!

The only reason i will not be able to get £60, is if someone near me starts undercutting my prices ,think about it ,your only competition is yourselves

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Keyless i think you are dead right in your last post, i never even thought about including the cost of the new technology i was so involved in making back the money invested in the new TRS5000. My prices will be going up this week to at least £60. The last thing i want to do is price out any other key cutter.

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well said

 

i have been thinking of getting into the auto cutting market for a while but have been put off by how much all these cloning machines ect ect are. i can also tell you that if i ever do get into this type of market i will only be asking a fair price for a fair job no more no less . seems to me there are new cloning machines coming out every week and to keep up with it all you would have to charge a reflective price for keeping up with all the techno

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£70-80 for the Ford red master key system (that doesn't have the master key) and same price for the texas crypto maybe be a tad more

 

personally i would have spent my money on the Silca fast copy as they

have cracked Philips crypto which will come as a free upgrade

 

i have used the trs 5000 and found it not to be reliable meaning the information it displays on the screen

 

The Upgrade will only work with the FAST COPY and RW4 - BUT not the RW2 or RW3 .

 

The Only extra is the chip All for TP10 chip (ID42) -

 

VW

1999-00 Caddy

1998-00 Golf Cabrio

1998-00 Lupo

1998-00 Polo

1998-00 Sharan

1998-00 Transporter

Seat

1998-00 Allhambra

1998-01 Arosa

1999- Cordola Vario

1998-02 Ibiza

1998-02 Inca

Ford

1998-00 Galaxy

 

JMA are working on updates already ! for these and others !

 

Also - Could you advise what chip errors you had please on screen as it tells you the JMA Chip code - And I have found it to be spot on ! to use in the JMA machine - or with your AD100 or MVP machine .

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Ok, I hope I ordered the right machine :oops:

I have been looking at these for ages :roll:

 

Danny

 

To be fair, Silca have got a year or so head start BUT the JMA machine has a lot lower running costs, leaving you with either a wider profit margin :) or the ability if required to undercut any local competition.

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or the ability if required to undercut any local competition.

 

[-X [-X [-X Not good practice

 

 

BUT .... That said ...

 

This is one of the main reasons this has sold so well (less that fact this is a better system than the Battery heads anyway) - Almost every person who has purchased this has said the same !

I have had many people buy the TRS5000 even when they have already a Silca RW4 or Fast copy, So they can as such under cut their own prices too .......

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Guest Keyman

John,

With all due respect, surely the main benefit of the TRS5000 is NOT to undercut, even your own prices #-o This is just not good business!!

 

The way I see my TRS5000 is that I sell the keys at the same price as the battery head keys, but now I make more profit and sell a far better looking key :D

 

With the TRS5000 your selling a "normal" looking key, compared to the bulky EHS2, you already have the advantage so why the need to undercut??

 

:?

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You are 100% correct, My comments are from end users only.

 

They are saying that their customers do not want to pay the Battery head price, so as they can obtain the TPX1 and TPX2 keys cheaper, they are dropping their own prices (in theory undercutting themselves) but in turn getting far more business due to the lower prices they can offer to the end customers !

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Hi again. Keeping with the profit - I guess you can sell the TPX1 and TPX2 keys with the same profit margin you are making with the EHS keys but still at the cheaper price (If you wanted to) but on top of that as the prices could be cheaper - you could / should end up with more customers and hopefully more profit for the future of your business :D

Hopefully :!:

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the point is , why discount the keys at all ? if the dealer quotes £120 for a key ,they are already saving loads by buying from me ! by selling them any cheaper i wont sell any more ,£60/70 is a massive saving from £120 on a key i would have thought , and its the dealers you need to compare it with , the chance of finding 2 trs5000 machines local to any one is slim i would think.

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Guest Keyman

Exactly =D>

 

Theres a Danger that the TRS5000 will devalue key prices as now any Monkey can make a key, but if the monkey uses its brain, it can have more peanuts to eat at the end of the day!! :lol:

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Guest Keyman

Lower prices = more business :? [-X

 

Whats the point in being a busy fool?? #-o

 

I make good profit from customers who have the sense to get a spare.

 

Those who dont want to pay £45 - £60 are just tight. Why should prices be reduced to please this type of customer?? Just wait for them to lose their keys and make even more profit!!! :D

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