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i bet if i bought that machine, it'd recommend key blanks for keys that i don't stock as a matter of course :lol:

 

i use the universal for all those keys that never seem to appear in the books. i also use it for the era 25B blank as a very knowledgeable rep once told me there was no difference against the generic blank.

 

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i bet if i bought that machine, it'd recommend key blanks for keys that i don't stock as a matter of course :lol:

 

i use the universal for all those keys that never seem to appear in the books. i also use it for the era 25B blank as a very knowledgeable rep once told me there was no difference against the generic blank.

 

rick.

 

The 1a is a far nearer profile to the 25b than a universal...If you wanna use the wrong blank :lol: :lol:

Who was this knowledgable rep telling lies :twisted:

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I think the universal blank is one of our trades best inventions , its a great time saver ,cant find the right blank within a few mins then whack it on a uni punter will be happy for quick service you save time jobs a good un.

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who told you the 1A was a nearer profile? :shock:

 

when they first came out, before we stocked the actual blank we tried the 1A and had no luck with it, couldn't even get it to go in the lock :roll:

 

maybe it's differences between manufacturers' blanks, i've had 1As off one of our suppliers that looked more like a universal than a bloody universal :lol: they probably made up a truck load off unis and stamped some 1a and some with uni codes :lol:

 

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who told you the 1A was a nearer profile? :shock:

 

when they first came out, before we stocked the actual blank we tried the 1A and had no luck with it, couldn't even get it to go in the lock :roll:

 

maybe it's differences between manufacturers' blanks, i've had 1As off one of our suppliers that looked more like a universal than a bloody universal :lol: they probably made up a truck load off unis and stamped some 1a and some with uni codes :lol:

 

rick.

 

HD 1a works every time...never fails. Why not use a 25b :? bloody UL1's totaly crap, too weak, especially when they are a sloppy fit in the wrong lock...like an Era lock. :wink:

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you must be referring to the hd UL1. i've never had a silca ulo5o break or bend in an era lock yet and if you compare the profiles end to end they're so similar as to be indifferent. how can you say they're too sloppy? :roll:

 

hd 1A must be slightly different to silca's 1A, never got one of those to do an era yet.

 

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But surely it's the user breaking the key through misuse,It dont break on its own.

 

I have argued/explained with customers who come in and say this key has broken in half that if a key is all the way in the keyway when it's turned there is no way it can break,but if you turn it before it's fully inserted it's going to twist in half.A little demo with an old cylinder and they realise it's there mistake by rushing to turn the key.

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Eleviate all problems or potential problems by using the correct materials for the job, as you should in all aspects of our trade :wink:

 

People who insist on UL1 for all are not in the same league as the more conscientious key cutter, So I wouldn't expect them to understand :) I would expect them to be Stick-on-soles for all repairs aswell :twisted:

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Eleviate all problems or potential problems by using the correct materials for the job, as you should in all aspects of our trade :wink:

 

People who insist on UL1 for all are not in the same league as the more conscientious key cutter, So I wouldn't expect them to understand :) I would expect them to be Stick-on-soles for all repairs aswell :twisted:

totally agree, if your going to do a job do it properly :D
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  • 2 months later...

just bought a 299 to relace my old ecm and the rep told me i should buy the 399 which has the

optika attached for easy identification!

told him I dont need it for with 20 odd years key blank identification stored in the grey stuff i didnt need it.

Ive realised there is more to this machine than meets the eye.

If you actually take time to see its potential and have a code cutting machine then you can give them a TRUE key every time instead of a copy.

However the same rep did tell me ive too many blanks on the board and the uli would cut most cylinder keys now a days?

So dont shoot this machine down just yet im going to see if i can get one on trial and come back to yous on it.

carry on!

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