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has any body tried to cut a WMS 8 on a UL2? (davenport ref) i have an order for 50. but wants coloured keys.

thing is its for an apartment in wales, miles from here and customer cant try one. (she probaly will buy in wales if i cant do it)

so do i take the gamble?

need to do them tomorrow morning if i am going to at all

so anybody - does it work?

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Personally I am pretty sure it would not work. WMS8 is a longer version of wms5 from what I can see. If it was a wms7 you may have had a chance with UL2 but doubtfull on wms8.

 

What you really need to know is what is the ORIGINAL key (make) as this will give you better info on whether the UL2 will work or not

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very rarely works. we often get keys back which have been cut by trainees on ul2 when should have been wms8. it might be possible, depending on the cut closest to the nose to use wms5. if you cut it and you get the last cut into the blank it should work no problem. (cant think of a way to word that better) you can cut a 6 pin on a 5 pin as long as you fit all of the cuts on it.

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we were using ul2 and ya5 (16hl)very successfully before we became aware of the wms blanks when the locks started becoming more common although if i remember rightly, this was for the earlier wms7 keys.

 

according to our key rep from NWKS this week, the disney keys can be copied without any problems from a wms8 although we are yet to put this to the test. (we also used a disney key to copy a wag1 a short while ago and we asked the customer to try it for us, she hasn't been back as yet so here's hoping it worked fine)

 

i don't know why it tends to happen that some key cutters have difficulty with keys that others find work fine most, if not all of the time. maybe it's the differences in cutting between machines.

 

rick.

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you can cut a 6 pin on a 5 pin as long as you fit all of the cuts on it.

 

Arrrr, Oh no you can't,

These keys a usually for euro profile cylinders & as such if the key blade isn't long enough then the nose or tip of the key will not touch the shim to engage the cam & the plug will just spin round in the cylinder but not turn the cam.

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you can cut a 6 pin on a 5 pin as long as you fit all of the cuts on it.

 

Arrrr, Oh no you can't,

These keys a usually for euro profile cylinders & as such if the key blade isn't long enough then the nose or tip of the key will not touch the shim to engage the cam & the plug will just spin round in the cylinder but not turn the cam.

 

Tel,Tel,Tel why you go and give out info like that, I get half a dozen callouts a year from key cutters doing that.................You aint seen me right :lol:

 

You ain't seen me either right, :oops: The above info is totally wrong!! take no notice!! I know not what I am saying, just don't read the stuff I post it's all cr@p :lol: :lol:

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how about cut them on a fun key any will do, maybe the cheapest. when they come back start hopping around shouting ahh me leg then pass out wait for the paramedics to arrive. Then lock the shop and leg it! :lol: :lol:

 

I'm expecting a visit from some guy called Matt Alright wants to make a T.V. programme about me :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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I too get a number of call outs each year for cylinders damaged in this way, quite often the incorrect blanks will partially engage the cam causing slippage which eventually leaves the cam out of position.

The result on the door being that the key cannot be removed from the cylinder after the door has been locked.....

 

Mark

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  • 2 months later...

Ive got a euro profile lock at home with wms8 as original blank. I too had a few customers asking for funkeys for it so I tested it on mine first with a smiley ul2 and it worked perfectly, was I just lucky? I have since done many for customers ( although I still only use a ul2 when they want a funkey ) and I havent had any complaints.

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