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i have a problem with a stitcher that i want to sell,however i cant get the stitch tension right.it worked fine until the thread broke at the rear of the machine.im sure its to do with the thread setup.has anyone got a similar stitcher and can tell me the method of threading.i enclose a photo.thanks.

 

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Many Old machines are "obsolete" including BSA motorcycles but it should be no reason not to buy them!

with good mechanical knowledge and a good fabricator these old obsoletes can offer many years good service.

Sure if you can afford it, buy a new one with parts availability. But if the stitchers priced right and the buyer is aware of what he is buying (which he should be if he is already a repairer) then why condone the transfer of machinery?

As a start up machine, to get you going a few hundred for this and that is a lot easier to stomach that many thousands.

 

Lee

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As you know Keith, I brought a stitcher from your selves to replace my "obsolete" Standard outsoler.

However the Old machine faired me well, I had to make a new table as with so many the old one had been chewed up a bit, and I had a couple of other problems in the years I had it which I sorted out along the way.

 

I have always had a rolling practice of replacing one big thing a year, and it was simply a case of it was the turn of the outsoler, rather than its vintage.

I brought it obsolete and it served many pairs for a further few years. I did sell it on, and I admit that sadly the new owner wasn't over happy at being told by yourselves it was obsolete. however when it left me it was in full working order and in the right hands should still be.

I am proud to say I no longer have to consider older machines, however if I had my time again and was doing it all over again. I would still buy this lovely old machine and risk getting a few years out of it than not be stitching on my soles at all.

 

Lee

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And incidentally I am still running a keats & Bexon blake which I brought as a none runner.

I paid £100 for it, hired a van to get it and spent a few pounds getting it going.

This Obsolete non-runner has (despite being temperamental) faired me well over the 7 years I have owned it, when its its turn I will replace it though. AND SELL IT!

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My Apologies! And welcome to the forum I see you have been a member for some time but this is your first post r.steph, Perhaps the chicken and egg story should be resumed over a pint in the arms!

 

Best of luck with the outsoler my own experience only extends to a Standard, so I can't help you with this one. where abouts are you based?

 

Any one else used one, or got one who can help?

 

Lee

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Hi all.Firstly thanks for your warm welcome.Im pleased my post has been so lively.I live on the edge of Coventry and have recently retired after 45 years working for Modern shoe repairs,paynes, timpsons and minit and finally for myself.As for the stitcher i bought it 20 years ago as a backup to the one i used of the same model which i later sold.Although i agree that its obsolete, its in good working order, and hopefully would be of use to someone.Once again thanks for your comments, and i hope this serves as an introduction.

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Over the years, when I was a humble shoe repairer, I had spent many an afternoon fiddling, mainly with stitchers, but occasionaly with other machines. shouting, swearing, throwing all sorts of bits around. Stripping off many leather soles, after getting them all chewed up after the stitcher letting me down again!

 

I made a decision some years back, that, because of the wasted time and expense, that I would invest in machines that would do the job quickly and efficiently. In order for this to happen, you need a reliable machine that turns out job after job with as little going wrong as possible. When it does fail, you need to be able to get the machine up and running as quick as possible and therefore be able to source parts quickly and at reasonable cost.

 

I'm sure I'm not alone in these events and I hope it makes you think a little about your machinery and how you look at things when you replace them.

 

Regarding the parts issue for Simplex, the main reason for them becoming obsolete over time is that all the factory parts, made on production lines eventually run out.

 

The cost of finding another supplier is full of problems, trying to find technical drawings for instance to asssist in the making of the parts, finding an engineering Company to manufacture those parts. If you manage to find one, will they be prepared to make small numbers in order to keep the cost down.

 

These are just a few of the problems that occur with these old machines and should be considered before making judgement on whether or not they should be kept in production. Ask yourself this, why do Companies like Power, K&B and Simplex go out of business?

 

Keith

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last outsole machine i used was built as the y say in 1939 have had to fix it once or twice and have trained a few peaple on the use of it . to my knowledge it is still going strong and does do a very good job and would have no worrys about buying it if it was put up for sale by my old employer even though standerds themselves have said its had its day

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Elfman, it depends how you mean 'has had it's day.

 

Surely you don't expect us to say we can service and support whatever machine you may have, if we cannot supply parts for it :shock:

 

Keith

 

Keith Do you still stock parts for th K&B outsoler!!!

as I've been offered one, that needs a bit of TLC.

 

I don't really need the machine but this guy is gonna skip it otherwise.

I'll put it in my garage and do it up if it's not F@*t, I haven't looked at it yet.

 

My new shop has a Victor :x And I hate Victors, orrible things.

 

Anybody out there like these bloody vile stitchers :shock:

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