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does anyone know any thing about zieh-fix electric pick sets?

 

i saw one at mla show and they look very good

i'm wondering whether or not to replace the good old drill bits.

this lock pick gets into cylinders in seconds which is easier than drilling them.

any of you know anything about this? would appreciate any advice.

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does anyone know any thing about zieh-fix electric pick sets?

 

i saw one at mla show and they look very good

i'm wondering whether or not to replace the good old drill bits.

this lock pick gets into cylinders in seconds which is easier than drilling them.

any of you know anything about this? would appreciate any advice.

HI MATE

Well I was at the show to but must have missed that pick sounds good.

But one thing I learnt quickly when i became a locksmith is there are lots of people selling lots of tools to open various locks. You see them work at the show, try them out at the shop when you get them and put them in the van. 6 months later when you come up against a situation where you might actually need it you've forgotten which read means what! or what pin goes in for lever lift 3. Unlike yourself we dont do auto work, so the only picks i actually use are 3g114 pick wheel pick and for cylinders just my good old fashioned majestic diamond and hook end , and of coarse the 2 in 1 picks.

There is a great little tool for opening euro and oval thumb turns from nigel rose 01494 438118 simple but effective. Only £20

He's got lots of good stuff worth a look if you haven't already.

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The pick gun you refer to is i gues the wendt gun.

The pick gun is an excellent tool, and it does pop them open once you develop the knack for it, but BEWARE , the pick gun will probably die on you in under 6 months.

 

This is because inside the body none of the connectors are covered and if bounced short out on the metal body of the gun, resulting in the battery not holding its charge.

 

The batteries however are cheap, and replace these and cover the connectors with tape and the guns as good as new.

 

similar results can be achieved with a standard HPC pick gun using the thinner blade sets supplied for the wendt gun, at half the cost.

 

In the uk the wendt gun is available from keyprint in scotland a little cheaper.

 

i use a pick gun or a half diamond on cylinders , a chris belcher curtain pick or safeventures decoder on BS3621 locks to good effect.

 

once practiced the chris belcher curtain pick is a great tool, opening legge 5641 BS locks and ERA invincible in under 2 minutes, union 2134 in 2 to 4 minutes.

 

I open on average 80 to 100 doors a week from call outs and from utility debt runs, and havnt had to drill a lock in 4 years, and not been longer than 15 minutes to open a door non destructively.

The right tools work well if practiced.

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80/100 Doors a week and not had to drill in 4 years?

You must be the worlds best Locksmith :D Only joking, or are you?

 

I always try NDE but its not always possible. What do you use on.

Chubb Avva

Ruko Flexcore

Kaba

Chubb RKS

Chubb M3

and other security cylinders with restricted key way.

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This topic is sailing close to the forumsterms and conditions please keep any replies within our boundries.

 

>6.2 In using the Website/Services you agree not to:

6.2.13 post, publish information/links to information involving lock picking techniques, practices or publications in any form.

 

Many thanks

 

Lee

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should have said , all healthy locks , im talking about warrant openings on healthy locks.

we guarantee a free lock if drilled on call outs but excludes faulty or damaged locks.

 

im on about healthy locks , obviously faulty locks are a different ball game.

 

Now as to doors with snib dropped, not all require destructive opening even without a letterbox, many can be overcome NDE without too much hassle and with simple tools.

 

sadly where most warrants take place, they dont pay their utility bills , so you can imagine the high end locks are not often used.

 

most local councils and housing associations use Legge 5641 or ERA invincible both easily defeated with a curtain pick in minutes, fortress are becoming popular now too.

 

ava you can have limited successes with a pick but more suited for the bench than the door as time consuming, ingersol SC71 are not too bad by hand as are multlock interactive, garrisson are an easy opening for most.

 

for AVA i use a home made 3 in 1 tool , for multlock i have 2 in 1 tools bought from china, restricted sections can still be picked though some are a nightmare and too tight to pick, chubb RKS lever locks can be picked with chris belchers RKS tool, or scoped to assist a decode.

 

a nearby council have fitted bilocks to entire property list, but with a little practice, not unbeatable.

 

If i still lived in london, then i guess one would meet top end all the time, but in nottingham and leicester its not so hard to beat what you see on a daily basis.

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We dont do repo work there's lots of competition for it, there's a local fella with a van does anywhere in suffolk for £60 replacement locks at cost price :? Not always the most pleasant work.

Good to see you on the forum, I'm sure I'll be picking your brains for advice :lol:

 

Lee, are we able to talk about different picks aslong as method is not mentioned.

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As log as you stick within the t&c YOUR ok!

 

>6.2 In using the Website/Services you agree not to:

6.2.13 post, publish information/links to information involving lock picking techniques, practices or publications in any form.

 

There are better sites suited to the lock smith trade & whilst general talk is OK here, we are not in a position to monitor or administrate the wider subject.

 

Lee

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