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#1 abababa

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 10:39 AM

The local housing association have started fitting new doors around the area and they are coming with these locks. Anyone any idea of the correct blank? I've gone through catalogues and online but I'm not having much luck. Many thanks

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 10:40 AM

Nightmare. 


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Posted 05 January 2017 - 11:07 AM

http://www.secure-arc.com/

 

Genuine only.


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#4 abababa

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 11:44 AM

Thanks chaps... after speaking to secure-arc.com/, I think this is going to be a nightmare to try and get these.  They wont supply them to me.  They referred me to a company in Dublin, who wont supply them to me either.  They are calling me back to see if i can get a price on them being cut and posted out to me individually.



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Posted 05 January 2017 - 11:46 AM

ARC themselves are fine to deal with, but the builder's merchants, architectural ironmongery companies etc who sit in the middle are frequently appalling to deal with. They often haven't a clue how to go about getting copies made and it can take weeks and weeks.



#6 abababa

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Posted 06 January 2017 - 10:40 AM

So they got back to me.  They will deal with me in respect to sending me out keys, if i send them the code.  Approx £7.00 per key plus £8.50 postage.  If i add a few quid on for my troubles id need to be charging close to £20.00 per key.

 

Don't suppose anyone knows of a regular blank that will pass?  Though i'll probably end up just offering a cylinder change.

 

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#7 simon1

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Posted 06 January 2017 - 11:04 AM

Easy Entry Machine is best solution

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Posted 06 January 2017 - 11:06 AM

you have one Simon? :smt057



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Posted 06 January 2017 - 11:12 AM

So they got back to me.  They will deal with me in respect to sending me out keys, if i send them the code.  Approx £7.00 per key plus £8.50 postage.  If i add a few quid on for my troubles id need to be charging close to £20.00 per key.

 

Don't suppose anyone knows of a regular blank that will pass?  Though i'll probably end up just offering a cylinder change.

 

Thanks

 

That's cheap.

 

Don't ever try and order BKS keys, just over £50.00 each with carriage and vat and that was my cost !!!.


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#10 simon1

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Posted 06 January 2017 - 11:37 PM

Yes I have one



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Posted 09 January 2017 - 09:28 AM

That's cheap.

 

I think it's ridiculous that we all (from end-customer, to builder, to key cutting middleman) accept this profiteering. 



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Posted 09 January 2017 - 11:24 AM

Lol.
Don't we take 10pence blanks and turn them into £5 keys?
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Posted 09 January 2017 - 11:29 AM

If you cant beat them, join them. I currently have 3 of my own section key blanks and cylinders although i do want regular return customers

so i do not take the michael.


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#14 NYKeys

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 01:22 PM

Lol.
Don't we take 10pence blanks and turn them into £5 keys?

 

If Timpsons only costs is the blank itself, they've got something truly magical going on for them.

 

I on the other hand have to deduct the VAT, then pay insurance, rent, heating, rates, machinery, cost of occasional new blades, staff etc etc etc.

I also don't charge a £5 for a key. I charge £3.

 

It's disingenuous to suggest that making an honest profit is the same as profiteering, Mr Muppet.


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Posted 09 January 2017 - 01:25 PM

If you cant beat them, join them. I currently have 3 of my own section key blanks and cylinders although i do want regular return customers

so i do not take the michael.

 

Interesting. Who do you go through for this? Brisant?



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Posted 09 January 2017 - 02:00 PM

Interesting. Who do you go through for this? Brisant?

 I have an old (now discontinued) 5 pin Abus.section. We only cut keys on this now as new stock is no longer available.

 

I also cuurently use a 6 pin Anker cylinder from Codringtons as well as a totally restricted Abus Pfaffenhain suite.

 

We assemble all stock in house unless it is more than 20 cylinders then i get the suppliers to do the job for me.

 

I also have approx 30 x Evva DPS master suites which we have supplied as well as a Brisant Ultion master suite.

 

There are also a few Esla NG suites and some Cisa Astral and Cisa 5 pin suites that we have also supplied.


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#17 mrelf

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Posted 04 December 2017 - 09:08 PM

Hi, has anyone found a solution on these arc keys, thanks, paul



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Posted 06 December 2017 - 10:04 AM

Hi, has anyone found a solution on these arc keys, thanks, paul

As above: sometimes you can buy direct from SecureArc, sometimes you can't and have to run the gauntlet of the various middle-men at architectural hardware companies who are not really trained/ready to take the order.



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Posted 06 December 2017 - 02:48 PM

why not ask customer to bring lock in so you can see if you have anythink close i do this regular sometime will some wont but then moan about price landlord wants



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Posted 10 December 2017 - 10:18 AM

Have you tried to put a key into a Camillo Bianchi or a Silca Lector, Optika machine. Often  these machines give you alternatives that will fit into the lock.

Worst case scenario, the machine gives an image of a key you can modify.






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