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FFS Gaz *** ***. A stupid reply or what? Its simple enough. Take a look down at the cop of thread. Think? (that aint going to stitch a pair of shoes) I'll change it just to be on the safe side. Simples............ No disrespect Jo. :) you plonka. lol

 

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Just think for a second, what the cost and production implications turning the last 5 metres of thread a different colour might be :-k

 

Exactly, now go do some work and keep an eye on the thread :roll:

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keith if its in pdf put it in the downloads mate

Graham gave me a copy of his original which i have copied into a file but an up to date one would be good too see whats spares are available

carry on!

 

Please refer to the "Downloads" section.

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Hi I own a victor outsole machine I noticed vsm 13y stamped on the section where the oil feeder pops on,This is at the very top of the machine not the lid.I my self am looking for the way how to thread this machine it is similar to the No7 machine but not exact,I don`t understand when stated up above page 4 there are some dr threading diagrams,but I can`t find them,any help please with this issue,

I have now discover the machine has a No 7 model 724 stand,well looks very similar,but the head is a No,2 known as the model 75,but does not have the casing shroud, Thank you for the pdf file on this No 75 model that is being allowed by all to down load,   

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So where would I find the model number on my machine ,I have a repairers handbook and price list by Enterprise Bristol Derrick & Hosegoods LTD Bristol 1953,

and in this book it show virtually my type of stand to the machine I own but the head in the book does not look like my one on the stand,The stand looks like the standard no 7 model no.724 I have, but the head on my outsole stitcher looks like the no 2 victor outsole stitching machine head but without its cowling cover,I think people call it the no,75

Questions for all please.

1)How do I buy threads for this machine if they only sell the thread to people who have there own business

2)Is the cord 4-6 or 7 ply/twist and would it be revers twist or not

3)Where would I pick up the Awl and needles for my machine,

4)As my machine has a hot wax pot at the front in the middle that screws in on the head,ive been told don`t bother using hot wax go to the other thread,but I don`t know what type,

5)How do I get schematics to the threading pathway on this machine,I ain`t got a clue.

6)And if it is the no,2 head where can I get info on how to work it properly I have not got an a clue on how to adjust any thing on the machine I NEED A SERVICE AND USER MANUAL.

I would be so great-full for every ones input here please.

I have just down loaded the no,75 model pdf greatly appreciated from Lee I think THANK YOU,And my machine seams to have these same mechanism threading path to it ,But the only thing with the pdf files it still seams hard for me to under stand the threading path as the pdf drawings don`t seam fine print and to some one who has never used a outsole machine be for I could do with a more clear drawing to follow, ,

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I have spent a whole day faffing about trying to get my Victor to stitch. I finally conquered it and  will now put a perfect stitch even in a piece of 6mm micro. I am tired very tired. 

Hi is there any good tips to follow so I would not spend all day like your good self  getting mine correctly set up,and where do you get all your needle awls and thread from,and what type of thread,

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So where would I find the model number on my machine ,I have a repairers handbook and price list by Enterprise Bristol Derrick & Hosegoods LTD Bristol 1953,

and in this book it show virtually my type of stand to the machine I own but the head in the book does not look like my one on the stand,The stand looks like the standard no 7 model no.724 I have, but the head on my outsole stitcher looks like the no 2 victor outsole stitching machine head but without its cowling cover,I think people call it the no,75

Questions for all please.

1)How do I buy threads for this machine if they only sell the thread to people who have there own business - all wholesalers and suppliers like us should sell to anyone

2)Is the cord 4-6 or 7 ply/twist and would it be revers twist or not - twisted threads are now hard to get hold of, most convert to nylon braided thread with a pre waxed linen in the shuttle

3)Where would I pick up the Awl and needles for my machine, - most wholesalers and suppliers although possibly only one size available no 45 needle no 43 awl

4)As my machine has a hot wax pot at the front in the middle that screws in on the head,ive been told don`t bother using hot wax go to the other thread,but I don`t know what type,most convert to nylon braided thread with a pre waxed linen in the shuttle no need for wax

5)How do I get schematics to the threading pathway on this machine,I ain`t got a clue. maybe someone could post photos?

6)And if it is the no,2 head where can I get info on how to work it properly I have not got an a clue on how to adjust any thing on the machine I NEED A SERVICE AND USER MANUAL. No service manual, the one you have downloaded is only version available, we may have an original book in stock but it wont give you any more info

I would be so great-full for every ones input here please.

I have just down loaded the no,75 model pdf greatly appreciated from Lee I think THANK YOU,And my machine seams to have these same mechanism threading path to it ,But the only thing with the pdf files it still seams hard for me to under stand the threading path as the pdf drawings don`t seam fine print and to some one who has never used a outsole machine be for I could do with a more clear drawing to follow, ,

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So where would I find the model number on my machine ,I have a repairers handbook and price list by Enterprise Bristol Derrick & Hosegoods LTD Bristol 1953,

and in this book it show virtually my type of stand to the machine I own but the head in the book does not look like my one on the stand,The stand looks like the standard no 7 model no.724 I have, but the head on my outsole stitcher looks like the no 2 victor outsole stitching machine head but without its cowling cover,I think people call it the no,75

Questions for all please.

1)How do I buy threads for this machine if they only sell the thread to people who have there own business - all wholesalers and suppliers like us should sell to anyone

2)Is the cord 4-6 or 7 ply/twist and would it be revers twist or not - twisted threads are now hard to get hold of, most convert to nylon braided thread with a pre waxed linen in the shuttle

3)Where would I pick up the Awl and needles for my machine, - most wholesalers and suppliers although possibly only one size available no 45 needle no 43 awl

4)As my machine has a hot wax pot at the front in the middle that screws in on the head,ive been told don`t bother using hot wax go to the other thread,but I don`t know what type,most convert to nylon braided thread with a pre waxed linen in the shuttle no need for wax

5)How do I get schematics to the threading pathway on this machine,I ain`t got a clue. maybe someone could post photos?

6)And if it is the no,2 head where can I get info on how to work it properly I have not got an a clue on how to adjust any thing on the machine I NEED A SERVICE AND USER MANUAL. No service manual, the one you have downloaded is only version available, we may have an original book in stock but it wont give you any more info

I would be so great-full for every ones input here please.

I have just down loaded the no,75 model pdf greatly appreciated from Lee I think THANK YOU,And my machine seams to have these same mechanism threading path to it ,But the only thing with the pdf files it still seams hard for me to under stand the threading path as the pdf drawings don`t seam fine print and to some one who has never used a outsole machine be for I could do with a more clear drawing to follow, ,

 

Thanks for replying ,when i had gone into a site be for ,for 6-7-cord it has come up as trade prices and the form ask for my business ect ,even when I was going to do hand stitching and I wanted Tiger thread,it would only being sold to trade,

This thread you mention above would there be a specific cord as in thickness and strand strength,as when buying thread it has numbers and letters to what describes the thread ,and has it is braided I expect theirs no need to worry about revers or none revers twist

I thought that Awl and needle have to be the same size or else I would break the needles,if the awl is smaller than the needle would the needle break trying to go through a smaller hole,

I usually like the original manual as this always seams to be a more cleaner finish in its diagrams when original is copied the photo copied is never as crisp as the original, (I would prefer an original book if you have one for sale please.)

Could you please give me some companies that are happy to sell the thread you mention to none trade person.

And what company sell the AWL and Needles,

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We sell the thread, awls and needles you require and would have no problem supplying you, in fact, I believe you are already receiving info from my colleague Gary. But please remember, the machine you are talking about is probably 78-80 years old and manuals in pristine condition don't really exist, having said that, I believe we have sent you a scan showing the details of the threading :-)

 

If you need any further hep then please call us.

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We sell the thread, awls and needles you require and would have no problem supplying you, in fact, I believe you are already receiving info from my colleague Gary. But please remember, the machine you are talking about is probably 78-80 years old and manuals in pristine condition don't really exist, having said that, I believe we have sent you a scan showing the details of the threading :-)

 

If you need any further hep then please call us.

Yes I receive a diagram from Gary very glad for his time to help,But as I mention up above I now realize I have a No 2 victor head not a no 7 as I first thought.I do understand that the original booklets are not predestine condition,I would be suspicious if it was,How would I go about ordering needles and awls and the booklet from you where and what would I have to state,Help please thank you,

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