burghlocks Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 Can anyone offer thier opinion, I'm looking at purchasing a dual purpose key cutting machine, I've narrowed down my choice to between: Silca Duo Machine Silca Duo Machine Plus SKS Cyclone Dual Machine SKS Cyclone plus Dual Machine what I'm not sure about is the differnces between the silca and the sks and also the differnces with the 'plus' model, apart from obviously being more expensive, what would you recommend? Or something completely different? Many Thanks Alistair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Friend Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 I don't know about these models, but in general duel machines limit you. The jaws are not far enough apart to cut rim mortice keys, some safe keys and warded keys, they also limit one person to cutting a key - two machines two jobs at a time. If you are happy with that then no problem. Having said that if I was to start again as a mobile I would have a duel machine. If you near enough to or can make the trip to a supplier go see them and cut a few keys, it a big ivestment and you need to be happy. I did use one that was a shit to move the carriage along kept sticking because the swarf got into the worm gear, don't remember which make though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Gardner Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Can anyone offer thier opinion, I'm looking at purchasing a dual purpose key cutting machine, I've narrowed down my choice to between: Silca Duo Machine Silca Duo Machine Plus SKS Cyclone Dual Machine SKS Cyclone plus Dual Machine what I'm not sure about is the differnces between the silca and the sks and also the differnces with the 'plus' model, apart from obviously being more expensive, what would you recommend? Or something completely different? Many Thanks Alistair i just ordered a silca duo yesterday for one of ma vans i had a long discussion about it the differance from the duo and the duo plus is the plus can also cut abloy keys which i dont need in the van so i went with the duo. the sks machines are the same one can do abloy keys the cyclone is cheaper and suppose to be more robust in a full cast body no plastic top like the duo but i spent the extra on the duo as it looks better but looks aint everything. silca used to be the best machines but in recent years quality has went right down hill. i had 2 brand new silca lancer plus machines deliveded faulty on arrival i bought a record the new red one in january for a van it died at the weekend the common faulty switch problem so its going back in exchange for the duo.so if you dont mind the agricultural look of the cyclone go for that otherwise buy with your eyes a duo. if it is for daily shop use though get two machines and i would highly recomend my silca bravo best key machine i have ever used. and remember the dual machines cant do ward cuts. i have a jakey mk2 mortice and a lancer mortice for sale if you want a real mortice machine that can do ward cuts aswell. craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Gardner Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Can anyone offer thier opinion, I'm looking at purchasing a dual purpose key cutting machine, I've narrowed down my choice to between: Silca Duo Machine Silca Duo Machine Plus SKS Cyclone Dual Machine SKS Cyclone plus Dual Machine what I'm not sure about is the differnces between the silca and the sks and also the differnces with the 'plus' model, apart from obviously being more expensive, what would you recommend? Or something completely different? Many Thanks Alistair i just ordered a silca duo yesterday for one of ma vans i had a long discussion about it the differance from the duo and the duo plus is the plus can also cut abloy keys which i dont need in the van so i went with the duo. the sks machines are the same one can do abloy keys the cyclone is cheaper and suppose to be more robust in a full cast body no plastic top like the duo but i spent the extra on the duo as it looks better but looks aint everything. silca used to be the best machines but in recent years quality has went right down hill. i had 2 brand new silca lancer plus machines deliveded faulty on arrival i bought a record the new red one in january for a van it died at the weekend the common faulty switch problem so its going back in exchange for the duo.so if you dont mind the agricultural look of the cyclone go for that otherwise buy with your eyes a duo. if it is for daily shop use though get two machines and i would highly recomend my silca bravo best key machine i have ever used. and remember the dual machines cant do ward cuts. i have a jakey mk2 mortice and a lancer mortice for sale if you want a real mortice machine that can do ward cuts aswell. craig do not buy a duo the build quality is terrible mine is going straight back after talking to a few people it sounds like you will be better off buying a sks cyclone if you really want a dual machine i will be putting a lancer and the rekord back in the van with the side switch bypassed craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burghlocks Posted April 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Thanks for the advice folks, still making up my mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
key cabin Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 I would concur with all the comments regarding having 2 machines, it is more cost effective in the long run, if your machine breaks down your business stops, whereas if you had 2 machines at least you can still cut either mortice or cylinder keys. It just so happens that i have a as new cylinder machine for sale, if you would like details pm me. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockdecoders Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 We have just launched our all in one code cutter. It will do single and double sided car keys and also laser car keys. And all using one jaw. This is the best bet and also very cost effective. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Friend Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 sounds good Pete but not a lot of use to a guy starting out - he needs to cut yale and union not BMW, and chubb mortice? got a code cutter for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwomble Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Pete I have tried on 2 occassions to register my details with your site, and have never had any acknowledgment that my application was being considered or if it had been rejected. How much will your multi cutting machine be? Regards Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 Same her Pete. tried to register this week.................. NOTHING! Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockdecoders Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 I think the reason why is the server is done automatically and if the account application is not filled out correctly then it will reject it. Lee french is one I cant see the other one. When you look at the front page there is a registration button and you need to fill all the correct info as our server checks it all. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 Lee french is oneso do you have my info, am I authorised? or has your server rejected my potential business (I still haven't heard anything! Lee Ffrench Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwomble Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Lee I submitted further registration to Peters site last night and received confirmation this morning. I will say this though I did not on other occassions fill the form out correctly. This time I followed instructions and completed everything in Capitals even my email. So thanks Pete. Regards Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 CAPITALS, fill out correctly! I've filled out many, many forms over the years & consider myself quite computer literate! If I filled the form out wrong & got no confirmation right or wrong either way then the form is floored & a potential business loser! Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 I concur, capitals are a no no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwomble Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 I agree 100% with no Capitals, I too would never normally use capitals exclusively on any form. But the instructions at the bottom of the registration form requested ALL details should be completed in capitals. I simply followed the instructions to the letter and Registration was completed. As they say ALWAYS read the small print!! Regards Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Friend Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 so did I and I'm in - but the user name and password are in CAPITALS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwomble Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Yes Mick My Login details are in capitals as well, but the cofirmation email still arrived!! So I aint complaining. regards Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockdecoders Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Hi Lee. You should be active now. And mick it was nice to talk to you today. Our server doent mind if the 1st digit of each word is a capital. But all of the post code needs to be, it makes it easier for us to process all the info we get and sames time so we dont have to do it ourselves. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockdecoders Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Oh by the way i was away for the weekend so couldnt authorise it. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaloti Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Pete, are we going to see this machine tomorrow night at the gml ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockdecoders Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 yes we will be there. What is the new address please. Peter Oh by the way you are active and it is your email address and password you chose. Your email was booted back to me as incorrect. 07989476285 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKS_User Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 In terms of the original poster's question, I personally prefer the Cyclone (and the original model at that) over the other choices. Reason being is it's simple to use, reliable and hardwearing, we've had models in for a quick service that are over 15 years old and never had issues that have hit the recent Silca machines. Arguement for the Cyclone Plus is the mortice jaws are more flexible in what they can use, but are definately more fragile in comparison and generally not recomended for new or novice key cutters. If you are dead set on owning a Silca machine, go for the cheaper Duo over the Duo Plus as 95% of the time you'll never use the additional option of the Abloy jaws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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