Lee Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 One of my special items are laces from roll. I have allmost 100 types of laces which i can make in every length. Hi dutch cobbler, great to see you here, I'm interested about you laces on a roll, do you have a picture of your stand? Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Welcome John, I think that your laces on a roll will be the subject of much interest here. Perhaps you could start an International service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the dutch cobbler Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Hi, Perhaps you could start an International service. That's sounds intresting! I sell laces this way for over three years and every year it's getting more and more. When you try to buy (packed) laces, you often have the wrong size. This way you can help your customer allways. (If you have the right lace, offcourse) Lee: Here's a picture of my stand with rolls: There was also a article in the newspaper: http://www.ad.nl/utrecht/article31362.ece/url Sorry, it's in Dutch! John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Hi John and welcome to the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted July 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 John, How do you finish the ends? Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the dutch cobbler Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 We use iron pinken/malieën. (I don't know it in english!) We put them around the lace and then press it around. On the picture from the newspaper you can see the machine i used, now I have a machine with foot-pedal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJ SOLUTIONS Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Hi dutch cobbler, and welcome to the forum. i think that your laces on a roll is a very interesting subject, its pet hate of mine laces as you said you often have the wrong size and colour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 The Lace ends are called Aglets here John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shoegirl Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 WOW!! that is a kick butt idea! How long did it take you to accumulate all those colors? or did you get them all at once? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the dutch cobbler Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 WOW!! that is a kick butt idea! How long did it take you to accumulate all those colors? or did you get them all at once? It took three years to build this collection! Some laces are specially made for customers: the pink laces are made specially for a female-soccerteam! They allready had pink sweaters, bags and now also pink laces. The other colors and types of laces I picked out myself. I started with 2 rows, at this time there are 9 rows of rolls! John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 While the display takes up an enormous amount of space, I think that this is the best idea and aid to bring in new customers at the same time keeping your regulars that I have seen for many years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted July 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Can any UK suppliers bring us this system? I WANT IT! Where do you source you lacing, aglets & tooling John? Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJ SOLUTIONS Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 ME TOO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted July 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 I have contacted Caroline at shoestring and it looks promising! Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobblers Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 i made a similar posting to this a while back, you can read all about it here. http://www.shoerepairer.info/bb/viewtopic.php?t=798 that stand you have is certainly an eye catcher, would love one o' those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted July 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Did you ever contact ringpoint then Rick? I guess as with so many things 1 picture says a 1000 words, when you see something like this it looks really impressive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the dutch cobbler Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 I started with Ringpoint, but that was to expensive! And they only have a small collection. (In The Netherlands) I buy my laces now bij GVS-Levenbach. That's a dutch firm. They are the agent for The Netherlands from Jaeger from Germany! On the site from Jaeger http://www.jaeger-ttc.de/english/contact_e.htm you can find the agent for the UK! It's PBN Associates. You have to ask for yellow rolls, because they also place the laces on big paper rolls! You prob. have to order in rolls of 100 meters! Ask for the price first, maybe it's more expensive for the UK! \:D/ The system on the wall i made myself with a curtain-system! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoe String Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Hi All We did look into this a few years back and can supply braid and aglets and taggers to order. The reason we did not run with the idea was for the following reasons. Set up charge for the repairer. Tagger, aglets, dies in different sizes and the reals of braid. The time taken to measure the length of lace x 2 and cut. Tag 4 ends individually and then trim if not a clean finish with scissors. A sale of laces no longer would be instant. It was worked out that a pair of shoes took less time to repair. (depending on the job) The opinion was that they were not prepared to make laces for customers to collect later with the risk that they would not be back to pay. Also when we have metal tagged laces in the past the British customer has preferred the plastic tag. It is all down to personal opinion and the type of shop and time you have to give to your lace sales and how far this would effect your profit margin. We have over 388 different in stock laces and it may suit some rather than going for the above option to place special 1 pair orders as a customer service and charge the customer the extra for the special purchase. Hope this helps Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Good reply but i feel that you may be missing the point Caroline, I is not about the difference in time or profit but the enormity of the eye catching display and the fact that no-one else here does it. It must be a customer magnet of some power if you had a set up like that in a central location with a very busy footfall. Read the posts again!! we are all excited, what other product has sparked this much interest in the last 2 years of the forum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the dutch cobbler Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 what other product has sparked this much interest in the last 2 years of the forum? Thanks! Indeed, this product is a good product. Offcourse it takes a little more time to make a pair of laces than to pick a pair that's ready. I timed this afternoon and it takes approx. 25 seconds to make a pair of laces from 180 cm.! Standard laces (75cm. black cord for example) I keep still in stock. Alright time is money, but all the (ready) laces you need to have in stock costs a lot of money also. There are maney laces you have in stock, but sel only 1 or 2 pairs a year! I checked out all my laces: all the laces that take more than 2 years to sel a box of 10, I don't order anymore! I can make them from the roll! Also it's possible to make laces in strange lenghts! 250cm? no problem! 350cm? No problem! There is no brand that makes these length! I have allready for example 9 types of black laces: there is no customer that can not succeed! I get orders by e-mail from all around the Netherlands and also Belgium allready! I'm building a web-shop specialy for laces, but that takes a while. Don't start with as much I have, start slowly! John P.S. I hope my English is good enough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobblers Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 your english is pretty impressive dutch cobbler better than most of us on here in fact i can't exactly see why it would take so long to make up a pair of laces for a customer to call back for caroline when yer quiet, you simply tag the loose ends on the rolls ready for you to use. hugh makes a good point about this idea making folk excited, it may well be worth revisiting your original idea caroline with a fresher outlook on today's market and it's demands. the money we lose on odd colour/size/style lace sales over the year due to space or other restrictions could quite possibly make the investment worthwhile for some of us. cheers, rick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 A tailor made service attracts better prices and once the word goes around town I think you would get a new bunch of lifelong customers. Here's another offf the top of my head idea for you. Get the tool and the lace ends and you can alter any lace you already stock. Lets say you stock 2 lenghts in every colour, just 6 of each for starters, then when you get a request for a different lenght you just cut them down and put new ends on. Simple isn't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Klazykobbler Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Hi John welcome The lace idea is great ! But i think everyone has missed something you said. The pink ones are for a ladies soccer team? A full ladies soccer team in the shop all wanting laces. lost for words Klazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Hi good post about laces......... I dont have time to make laces but get your point Hugh about eye catching display but I stock what I consider to be a wide range from Shoestring, of course your going to get someone wanting something you aint got but thats customers for you. Caroline you are quite right I wouldnt be interested in this. carry on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Hi good post about laces.........I dont have time to make laces but get your point Hugh about eye catching display but I stock what I consider to be a wide range from Shoestring, of course your going to get someone wanting something you aint got but thats customers for you. Caroline you are quite right I wouldnt be interested in this. carry on! you may be interested in my last post Hibs, ~"Hugh-Candoit "with your existing stock. "Havent got time" Havent got time to make money??????? I'm surprised at that comment hibs. Make time. Get someone in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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